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globule2
(crash course raver)
05/30/05 11:01 PM
Re: Surrender your collections new [re: Adam]  

In reply to:

what does one actually gain from 'owning' a CD copy of ChangesTwoBowie other than satisfying a need to 'have' or to 'own'?


One gets one last picture of Bowie smoking a Gitanes. Things go Dunhilll after that (well, Marlboro, actually).



AdamAdministrator
(acolyte)
06/06/05 06:35 AM
collecting new [re: yirmiahu]  

Owning strange case cassette tapes or ChangesTwoBowie on CD will not result in hearing more music nor will it result in providing good cover art compared to it's cheaper vinyl counterpart. Rather, the product is a transitional object - more of a 'representation' than anything. So I am starting to think that some aspects of collecting might become a dynamic of hoarding or obsessive compulsive behaviour. Surrender before it is too late!

yirmiahu
(grinning soul)
06/06/05 08:22 PM
Re: collecting new [re: Adam]  

It's odd posting on message boards as something always seems to get lost in the translation. It's just not quite the same as the old fashioned face to face.

I'm sorry. I said strange cases of collecting cassette tapes not strange case cassette tapes. I really don't see why somebody would collect cassette tapes really. I mean if your going for good sound quality then CD's & Vinyl are where it's at.

I wouldn't buy a copy of ChangesTwo on CD since I already have the vinyl album. But for others it might 'represent' something more to them than just the lack of more music.

You haven't really shared much about yourself Adam. Instead choosing to maintain a reluctant distance than tell us about your collecting methods. Taking into consideration that Bowie albums are prone to excessive reissues with major or only minor additions to them, where do you draw the line? Your bio says your HARDCORE. Do you own all of his studio albums? Isn't that a little bit obsessive in itself. I mean there are some real stinkers in Bowie's music catalog.

I guess I'm saying the line is blurred and it seems your trying to define that line without revealing much about yourself, just typecasting us.



AdamAdministrator
(acolyte)
06/07/05 10:27 AM
Re: collecting new [re: yirmiahu]  

Well, I am as obsessive a fan as anyone but my obsessions don't really apply to this forum so I was just having some fun with that.

As for me, I live in a small apartment so I am quite careful about collecting things that clutter my house. I also have little or no appreciation for the 'rarity' of items. For me, a fake diamond is as good as the real thing if at the end of the day, it looks the same. And the Man Who Sold The World dress cover is no different to any other vinyl item - with the chief difference that someone tells you that it's important.

As for my Bowie collection, of course I own all the studio albums. But then I consider this to be more 'sensory experience' than 'ownership of product'. All of those albums contain at least some excellent music and have enough enjoyment to remain in my collection. The one exception is the debut album which I still don't own but I am satisfied enough with the considerably superior, Rock Reflections compilation.

Now some people, I understand, genuinely don't like some Bowie albums.....but they hold on to them for the sake of completism or understanding the artist to their full capacity. I am not sure how I feel about that exactly. I can see the point of view but as a personal preference, I usually don't go for it. I tend to get rid of all albums I don't like with little or no exceptions. But I could see why one might want to hold on to something for later revisional purposes or academic study.

Another thing - I collect other musician's cover versions of Bowie's music via MP3 and CD and have in the range of 400 or 500 at present. Again, this is more sensory than anything as some are even better than the originals.

As for my actual 'collecting habits' - where I have stepped over the line into what I think is sheer ownership of product, I guess that would be DD 30th Anniversary Edition. The deluxe packaging is worth something though. Probably about $3-$5 realistically.

The Last of the Disco Kings MP3 by Adam D Versus David B

yirmiahu
(grinning soul)
06/07/05 03:37 PM
Re: collecting new [re: Adam]  

Right on...Good to know



Nature_Boy
(crash course raver)
09/20/05 08:03 AM
Re: collecting new [re: yirmiahu]  

I would say at the most basic level my Bowie collecting is summarised as "Owning a copy of every particular song, remix, live version, or edit on an officially released CD"

Although I have strayed into realms of meer ownership on more than one occasion. For example the Deram "David Bowie" CD, depsite owning the Deram Anthology. I know then I have Bowie's debut album on CD, with its original cover and it can stand in line with Bowie's other studio albums.

I also picked up the original CD copy of Tin Machine as it was going cheap. The 1999 remaster seems to have been reclaimed and marketed as being by Daivd Bowie, and I wanted a copy of the album that still belonged to Tin Machine, and could sit alongside Tin Machine II.

Madness!

Its about time I had a signature

The Thin White Duke: David Bowie Tribute Band

diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/20/05 08:25 AM
Re: collecting new [re: Nature_Boy]  

In reply to:

For example the Deram "David Bowie" CD, depsite owning the Deram Anthology. I know then I have Bowie's debut album on CD, with its original cover and it can stand in line with Bowie's other studio albums.


I'm just the same Scott, I simply had to have Mr Bowie's first ever album ( albeit on CD ) I also bought the Japanese release of this...



Although I paid considerably more then it's current asking price It's limited to 5.000 release worldwide, click here

It has excatly the same tracks as the anthology even though it doesn't mention that fact on the packaging, Inside it is wrapped in a paper type sleeve as the original vinyl album would have been and the artwork is also exactly the same as the original album, the disc is white with Deram in orange print.

In reply to:

Madness!


It's a madness I feel comfortable with




London Bye Ta-Ta...

Pablo-Picasso
(stardust savant)
09/20/05 10:15 AM
Re: collecting new [re: diamondogz74]  

So when are you going to get around to Tin Machine? You posted this a year and a half ago.

Wake up!.


ocean
(wild eyed peoploid)
09/20/05 10:35 AM
Re: collecting new [re: Adam]  

When I was much younger I used to buy everything: the original studio vinyls, bootlegs (on vinyl then), compilations such as Changesone/twobowie, Rare (the italian release), Another face 1 and 2, Golden Years (and every other compilation that was released), 45'' singles, maxi singles, complete soundtracks for a couple of bowie songs, later the Rycodisc re-releases on vinyl, picture discs, then every studio album on CD, CD singles, bootlegs (on CD). Madness!!!

Now I am content to have more rare material downloaded from the internet, I made sure to buy the bootlegs from the gigs I attended during the Heathen and Reality tours, some cd's and dvd's and that's it. I would not buy any bootleg and it's OK to have CDs that are not original. I am not buying all the 30th anniversary releases. I have stopped being a completist and I am more choosy now. I will not rush to the music store to buy something. I consider collections a personal thing, in the sense that every item I have got reminds me of the time I got it. How old I was, how I felt and what I was doing at that time of my life. They are like a diary to me, they represent a lot of things to me. And that's the reason I don't want to buy items from other people.



diamondogz74
(freecloud)
09/20/05 02:41 PM
Re: collecting [re: Pablo-Picasso]  

In reply to:

So when are you going to get around to Tin Machine? You posted this a year and a half ago.


Yeah I did, the thing is Alan when I wrote that post saying that this was an excellent sound "Tin Machine" tracks off the Sound and Vision boxset, I then had several replies saying that the "Tin Machine" tracks selected for the Sound and Vision boxset were not typical "Tin Machine" sounds ( look through the thread and you will see ), I was told those tracks were carefully selected because they sounded more Bowie than "Tin Machine".

Two times in my long devotion to the man called Bowie have I lost my way, once was with Let's Dance, t'other was with "Tin Machine" good lord even Bowie mocks those "Tin Machine" days, I just don't feel at ease with his performing as a band member, a band lead singer? yes, I have yet to be convinced that I would like these albums.

When it comes to Bowie I am a bit of a stick in mud, sorry.


London Bye Ta-Ta...


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