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EJ
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02/07/06 08:08 PM
The Prince [re: Marquis]  

In reply to:

As you said, the muslims and their dark age religious views don't rule the whole world; they don't even rule Denmark.


Hamlet from New York, it appears.

You pointed out an important argument here: There was no need to publish those (mildly funny) cartoons. No western paper was under any threat or muslim opression against which it had to defend itself. None. It was all about provocation. Nothing less. And by defending this action the media involved abuses the meaning of free press. Just as free speech doesn't mean you can insult anybody just as you please the idea of free press doesn't mean you may use the media for publishing just anything. In the German constitution we have the same paragraphs about free speech and media etc. as most modern countries have - but above all of those stands the preamble wich states that every individual's dignity is untouchable. And that includes people from other religions as well.

And while there is no doubt that the reaction from small but rowdy parts of the world wide muslim community is as bad as it is obviously directed by people in the wings it is as clear that the unprovoked publishing of those cartoons was a deliberate act of provocation. And therefore it doesn't count as the great defense of democracy and freedom in my books.

And I want to believe that a light's shining through somehow



 
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.*Re: So what is the problem?  Starlite02/10/06 02:19 AM
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.*Re: So what is the problem?  Strawman02/06/06 05:27 PM
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.*Re: So what is the problem?  Pablo-Picasso02/06/06 12:03 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Strawman02/06/06 03:42 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Pablo-Picasso02/06/06 03:54 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  infidel02/06/06 12:38 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  diamondogz7402/06/06 02:24 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Monkeyboy02/06/06 02:31 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  diamondogz7402/06/06 02:40 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Pablo-Picasso02/06/06 01:11 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Monkeyboy02/06/06 01:47 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Pablo-Picasso02/06/06 01:51 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Monkeyboy02/06/06 02:08 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  infidel02/07/06 01:09 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Persilot02/06/06 02:19 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Dara02/06/06 02:39 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  infidel02/07/06 02:17 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  guiltpuppy02/07/06 04:06 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  infidel02/08/06 00:28 AM
.*Now I feel dirty  Shelle02/08/06 03:02 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Strawman02/07/06 04:44 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  guiltpuppy02/07/06 05:51 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Pablo-Picasso02/07/06 04:52 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  guiltpuppy02/07/06 06:02 PM
.*Lessons in human nature  Shelle02/07/06 02:23 PM
.*So safe in your little world  Strawman02/07/06 04:13 PM
.*Our solutions may not be Final enough for you  Dara02/08/06 06:04 AM
.*'By Bullet & By Bomb'  Strawman02/08/06 07:34 AM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  rumblingspires02/08/06 07:48 AM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  Shelle02/08/06 03:06 PM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  Strawman02/08/06 08:21 AM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  diamondogz7402/08/06 09:36 AM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  guiltpuppy02/08/06 11:20 AM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  Strawman02/08/06 11:34 AM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  guiltpuppy02/09/06 02:25 PM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  Strawman02/09/06 03:30 PM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  guiltpuppy02/09/06 03:46 PM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  b_mardIe02/09/06 04:40 PM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  guiltpuppy02/09/06 09:32 PM
.*Dynasty Building  Marquis02/09/06 04:27 PM
.*Re: Dynasty Building  Strawman02/09/06 04:36 PM
.*TW Kisses Muhammed's Ass  FredPhelps02/08/06 02:09 PM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  Starlite02/08/06 01:21 PM
.*Stove Polish  Marquis02/08/06 11:27 AM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  b_mardIe02/08/06 09:40 AM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  diamondogz7402/08/06 09:55 AM
.*Now they want to ban Playboy  Strawman02/08/06 10:32 AM
.*Re: Now they want to ban Playboy  diamondogz7402/08/06 11:00 AM
.*Re: Now they want to ban Playboy  Pablo-Picasso02/08/06 11:05 AM
.*Re: Now they want to ban Playboy  diamondogz7402/08/06 03:03 PM
.*Re: 'By Bullet & By Bomb'  bibiStardust02/08/06 08:02 AM
.*alarm sirens  rumblingspires02/08/06 08:06 AM
.*You're all slogans, no solutions  Shelle02/07/06 04:21 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Dara02/07/06 10:11 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Pablo-Picasso02/07/06 10:28 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Monkeyboy02/07/06 11:25 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Dara02/07/06 10:48 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Shelle02/07/06 02:30 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  infidel02/07/06 01:15 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Shelle02/07/06 02:35 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  bibiStardust02/07/06 10:13 AM
.*B I N G O !  Tin02/07/06 02:36 PM
.*Re: B I N G O !  Shelle02/07/06 02:48 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  diamondogz7402/07/06 09:36 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Monkeyboy02/07/06 11:28 AM
.*anything goes bla bla yada yada  Emil02/07/06 10:09 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Pablo-Picasso02/07/06 09:57 AM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  diamondogz7402/07/06 03:00 PM
.*Shouting Fire at the Movies  Marquis02/07/06 05:44 PM
..The Prince  EJ02/07/06 08:08 PM
.*When Chuck Norris drew a big Mo 'toon....  power2charm02/07/06 07:05 PM
.*I fart on your shit  Marquis02/07/06 07:28 PM
.*Chuck Norris roundhouse kicked yer mom....  power2charm02/07/06 08:57 PM
.*Comfortably smug  Shelle02/08/06 02:57 PM
.*Americans decide  power2charm02/08/06 05:27 PM
.*Re: Americans decide  Coldfyr02/09/06 03:28 PM
.*The greatest lost track of all time....  power2charm02/10/06 07:27 PM
.*Re: Americans decide  Shelle02/09/06 03:46 PM
.*Jack Bauer would murder Chuck Norris in his sleep  Marquis02/07/06 09:28 PM
.*Jack Bauer's a complete homo!  power2charm02/07/06 09:44 PM
.*Re: Jack Bauer's a complete homo!  Monkeyboy02/13/06 12:51 PM
.*Bring the Pain!  Marquis02/13/06 06:35 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Pablo-Picasso02/07/06 03:05 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  diamondogz7402/07/06 03:14 PM
.*Alright, you seem to be playing along  Monkeyboy02/06/06 02:23 PM
.*Re: Alright, you seem to be playing along  Persilot02/06/06 02:32 PM
.*Re: Alright, you seem to be playing along  Monkeyboy02/06/06 02:56 PM
.*Re: Alright, you seem to be playing along  infidel02/07/06 01:57 AM
.*White Muslims  Strawman02/06/06 04:37 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Pablo-Picasso02/06/06 02:11 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Monkeyboy02/06/06 02:16 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Persilot02/06/06 02:07 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Pablo-Picasso02/06/06 02:08 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  sonofsilence02/06/06 12:24 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  FastChanges.02/06/06 12:33 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Beltene02/06/06 02:36 PM
.*Re: So what is the problem?  Froggy Starlust02/06/06 03:14 PM
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