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11/16/06 04:03 PM
Do you hear them calling...FROM BEYOND?! [re: WildWind]  

WW, I think the Pixies and the Pumpkins borrowed a few tricks from metal but I certainly would not locate them within the genre. It might be worth noting that I think a lot of bands that have been mentioned in this thread (GnR, AC/DC, Evanescence) are not metal, even if they were influenced by it.

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Ville: The essence of True Metal can and will be debated until the end of the world.

What is and isn't "true metal" (and that is what they call it) is notoriously divisive topic among metal fans. Part of the problem is that metal has changed so much in it's 40-odd year history. If Black Sabbath was formed today sounding exactly like they did in the early 70s, most folks would hesitate to call their music "metal." To say that something is not "true" is to say that it's not in line with the current stylistic movements of the genre. GnR might have been true metal if they'd released Appetite for Destruction in 1971 instead of within a year of Scum, Reign in Blood, Sign of the Black Mark and Gluey Porch Treatments. By that point, metal was about more than just the monster riffs and stoned solos; it had begun experimenting with speed, technique, atmospherics and brutality in a way that Axl and Slash did not.

I guess what it comes down to is whether you want to consider anything that uses conventions borne of metal a metal band, or only award that title to groups who occupy or have occupied a legitimate place within an aspect of a stylistic movement within metal as it was happening. There are plenty of people who are still stuck on playing jazz as it sounded in the 1940s. Does that make them not jazz musicians? I don't know. But I do know that it makes them suck.

If you hate melodic metalcore like I do, then you might find this amusing.

You know who else makes creatures? Satan.

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*Heavy Metal  Ville11/13/06 07:20 PM
.*What the masses say  WildWind01/06/07 11:56 PM
.*Re: What the masses say  ghostlove01/07/07 04:22 AM
.*Re: What the masses say  WildWind01/07/07 00:04 AM
.*Re: What the masses say  RabbitFighter01/07/07 04:17 AM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  Claude11/16/06 06:49 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  fiGgU_11/16/06 09:07 AM
.*Christrapers of the world unite!  RabbitFighter11/16/06 01:49 PM
.*Not quite my favourite genre  White Prism11/16/06 03:17 PM
.*You ain't metal without the corpsepaint  Marquis11/16/06 04:18 PM
.*Rough Dogz have bumps  White Prism11/16/06 05:06 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  Tin11/14/06 04:09 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  looking glass11/14/06 02:22 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  EJ11/14/06 12:38 PM
.*I really don't have to say anything  RabbitFighter11/14/06 02:23 PM
.*Re: I really don't have to say anything  EJ11/14/06 02:26 PM
.*Re: I really don't have to say anything  RabbitFighter11/14/06 02:36 PM
.*Re: I really don't have to say anything  EJ11/14/06 02:43 PM
.*Re: I really don't have to say anything  ghostlove11/14/06 03:03 PM
.*Moustache Rides!  Marquis11/14/06 02:43 PM
.*EJ = Old School  Marquis11/14/06 01:05 PM
.*EJ = Old School When it Comes To Metal  EJ11/14/06 02:01 PM
.*Lock Horns  Marquis11/14/06 10:57 AM
.*Re: Lock Horns  RabbitFighter11/14/06 11:04 AM
.*Best Metal Name  ladymacbeth11/14/06 12:05 PM
.*Prog-folk-rock-metal-classical-flute numpty  Persilot11/14/06 10:35 AM
.*Re: Prog-folk-rock-metal-classical-flute numpty  KModerator11/14/06 11:13 AM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  guiltpuppy11/14/06 10:24 AM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  Altoid11/14/06 09:04 AM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  ladymacbeth11/14/06 04:19 AM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  schizophrenic11/14/06 11:35 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  sonofsilence11/15/06 05:40 AM
.*Straighthate  Wraith211/14/06 12:14 PM
.*Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropy  Marquis11/14/06 12:27 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  RabbitFighter11/14/06 00:06 AM
.*Skeletons of Society  Wraith211/13/06 10:59 PM
.*The. Fuck.  WildWind11/13/06 11:07 PM
.*well I feel heavy metal  AdamAdministrator11/13/06 10:14 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  schizophrenic11/13/06 08:31 PM
.*I care far too much about this topic  WildWind11/13/06 08:24 PM
.*Re: I care far too much about this topic  Ville11/15/06 08:31 AM
.*I feel so unknowledgeable  WildWind11/15/06 11:33 PM
..Do you hear them calling...FROM BEYOND?!  Wraith211/16/06 04:03 PM
.*Re: I feel so unknowledgeable  th0mas11/16/06 12:57 PM
.*Have Marduk ever toured with Tiamat?  Marquis11/16/06 01:37 PM
.*Re: Have Marduk ever toured with Tiamat?  th0mas11/17/06 07:00 AM
.*Through the Fire and the Flames  Marquis11/17/06 10:54 AM
.*Exhume to Consume  Wraith211/17/06 11:30 AM
.*Re: I care far too much about this topic  wannabebowie11/14/06 06:56 PM
.*Re: I care far too much about this topic  RabbitFighter11/14/06 06:59 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  Sam_X11/13/06 07:36 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  Sam_X11/14/06 07:21 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  Tin11/15/06 03:07 PM
.*He's half alive, he's half dead.  guiltpuppy11/16/06 08:20 AM
.*Re: He's half alive, he's half dead.  Tin11/16/06 04:23 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  Sam_X11/15/06 08:18 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  KModerator11/14/06 07:38 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  Sam_X11/14/06 07:59 PM
.*Re: Heavy Metal  KModerator11/13/06 08:33 PM
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