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Where has Shelle even attempted to enter into serious debates?

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Look back up this thread to the first exchange between Shelle and EJ. Twister summed it up perfectly as:

Shelle: This action may be mis-read as smug moderator wankery.
EJ: Well, that's not what it is. *I* know what it is. But I'm not going to share the information. Because I'm a smug, moderator, wanker.

Also, if you look at the "Replace Sysiyo" thread, you'll see that Shelle entered the discussion, admittedly in her usual humorous style, but nevertheless with a serious point (that any new mod should be a woman to redress the gender imbalance), and specific (and I thought good) suggestions of who might make good mods.

You, on the other hand, just barged into the middle of this discussion with apparently nothing more to say than "It's wrong to call people Nazis".

Also, if you took your head out of your music threads for a minute and looked at Shelle's posts in the Coffee Shop, you'll find examples where she's made serious points in political discussions (about Miers most recently), sociology, sports, and racism. I'd link to them but I couldn't really be bothered since it's your ignorance, not mine. But the posts are there, believe me.

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Same goes for Twister. Hated the guy at first

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Maybe you just need to study Shelle's track record a bit more. Maybe you'll grow to love her as you have done Twister and Monkeyboy.

Anyway, thanks for the serious response, and for giving serious consideration to the points I made.

""Looking for love, not sex" -- the tagline of many a troll who doesn't believe they are worthy or capable of sex in its own right, but god, the thought of carrying that sort of middling self-esteem all the way to 36 is disturbing."