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Arlequino
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05/16/06 06:24 AM
Re: Nice gavel [re: Shelle]  

I won't claim to have followed this argument from its origins way back in the ether of TW time. Nor will I claim to be remotely interested in the semantics of it, a point upon which most TW arguments either founder or simply degenerate into. Furthermore, I'm not actually interested in Beltene's original argument; that seems to be based upon someone starting as many fires as possible, then coming crying to her mates when someone gives her a bollocking for it.

I think the interesting point of this argument is, as usual, the alleged need for impartiality on the part of moderators and administrators. Certainly, unless I'm guilty of a gross misinterpretation of her latest post, that appears to be the crux of Shelle's point: that being that those in an 'elevated role' ought to act with utter impartiality.

In my experience of TW, this has never been the case, and nor should it ever become so. There has been extremely occassional evidence of mods editing too willingly, and some posters began to feel targetted. The only reason for this, as far as I can see, is that as 'repeat offenders' it's their posts that are likely to get checked more often. Nobody - resident peroxide fatboy excluded - has the time or desire to read every single thread and post on this site, so if a mod's here on 'mod-duty' they're more likely to check out the posts of people who have been known to push the boundaries most often. Be they Beltene, Monkeyboy, Strawman - it does happen! - or whoever. Of course, some slip through the net, and that's when those who did get edited kick up a fuss, and all these sympathisers start crawling out of the panelling. I don't expect, though, that K edited Beltene's posts merely because they were Beltene's. They were screen stretching, and he was there to remedy it. Where's the problem?

But that's approaching Shelle's argument from a tangent. To meet it head on, as it were, I would suggest that as neither Adam, nor any mod to my knowledge, has edited any of your posts to change the content or point, then nobody has abused any powers.

Adam doesn't like you, you don't like Adam. So what? He's as eligible to hold grudges here as anybody else. So long as he doesn't go banning you - which, I suspect, he hasn't - or abusing his administrative powers, then what's the problem? That you two hate one another is what TW has been built on. The personal attacks, the snide comments, the all out arguments are exactly what's always happened here. But there's no point in trying to draw them out to make someone's administrative powers the point of the debate; frankly, people don't give a fuck about that.

In a far more convoluted manner than I originally intended, I'm saying let go of the 'Me vs. The Mods' mentality. It sort of undermines some of the fun of your arguments. And you're sure as hell not a dumb poster - surely you can see that?

If I've missed the point, then apologies. It wouldn't be the first time...

later,
Chris...

I could stay if you asked me,
So for God's sake don't ask me to stay




 
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Subject  Posted byPosted on
*Power corrupts idiots  Beltene05/09/06 11:38 AM
.*The Mod Squad  Monkeyboy05/12/06 05:11 PM
.*People don't like getting to know me.  power2charm05/11/06 08:53 PM
.*They don't like getting it in the mouth from you  NomDePlume05/13/06 08:36 AM
.*Some self awareness at last  Shelle05/12/06 05:05 PM
.*Re: Some self awareness at last  AdamAdministrator05/13/06 00:28 AM
.*Ach, so du bist auch Stu!  EJSundae05/13/06 01:08 PM
.*Re: Some self awareness at last  EJSundae05/13/06 10:32 AM
.*Adam = Diamond Dave wannabe  Shelle05/13/06 10:30 AM
.*Re: Adam = Diamond Dave wannabe *DELETED*  to_dizzy05/13/06 12:16 PM
.*Re: Adam = Diamond Dave wannabe  diamondogz7405/13/06 12:23 PM
.*Re: Adam = Diamond Dave wannabe  CharlieManson05/13/06 12:25 PM
.*Re: Adam = Diamond Dave wannabe  diamondogz7405/13/06 12:57 PM
.*Re: Adam = Diamond Dave wannabe  Monkeyboy05/13/06 04:41 PM
.*Re: Adam = Diamond Dave wannabe  Strawman05/14/06 07:20 AM
.*Play: Judge  Forgotten_Boy05/14/06 01:44 AM
.*Nice gavel  Shelle05/14/06 02:58 PM
..Re: Nice gavel  Arlequino05/16/06 06:24 AM
.*You earn respect, but not with a badge  Shelle05/16/06 04:04 PM
.*Adam was respected long before he got the badge  Dara05/17/06 08:07 AM
.*I hate it when you're reasonable!  Shelle05/17/06 03:19 PM
.*Shelle's tongue in, "My Life in Dara's Ass"  power2charm05/17/06 08:01 PM
.*Did Adam send you to ask if it's safe to come back  Shelle05/18/06 10:55 AM
.*Adam asked me to ask you to fetch his slippers  power2charm05/18/06 08:48 PM
.*Should have known you were his manservant  Shelle05/19/06 11:24 AM
.*Re: Adam asked me to ask you to fetch his slippers  to_dizzy05/19/06 08:08 AM
.*Any Secret Knowledge There?  EJ05/22/06 05:10 AM
.*Re: Adam asked me to ask you to fetch his slippers  Forgotten_Boy05/21/06 04:11 AM
.*Re: Adam asked me to ask you to fetch his slippers  Arlequino05/21/06 06:21 AM
.*Look who's over generalizing!  Shelle05/22/06 02:55 PM
.*Re: Look who's over generalizing!  to_dizzy05/23/06 03:47 PM
.*Oh great, a grammar war  Shelle05/24/06 04:41 AM
.*You hate the way I beat you every time  Shelle05/19/06 11:34 AM
.*Re: Adam asked me to ask you to fetch his slippers  guiltpuppy05/19/06 03:37 AM
.*Re: Adam was respected long before he got the badge  riley05/17/06 09:01 AM
.*Re: Adam was respected long before he got the badge  NomDePlume05/17/06 01:13 PM
.*Re: Adam was respected long before he got the badge  riley05/17/06 02:05 PM
.*Re: Adam was respected long before he got the badge  Arlequino05/17/06 09:09 AM
.*Re: Adam was respected long before he got the badge  riley05/17/06 09:31 AM
.*Re: You earn respect, but not with a badge  Beltene05/16/06 05:15 PM
.*Re: Nice gavel  guiltpuppy05/16/06 01:57 PM
.*Re: Nice gavel  KModerator05/16/06 05:33 PM
.*Re: Nice gavel  guiltpuppy05/17/06 05:19 AM
.*Re: Play: Judge  to_dizzy05/14/06 09:40 AM
.*Re: Play: Judge  th0mas05/14/06 04:59 AM
.*Re: Play: Judge  Monkeyboy05/14/06 05:43 AM
.*Re: Adam = Diamond Dave wannabe  to_dizzy05/13/06 12:25 PM
.*Re: Adam = Diamond Dave wannabe  Beltene05/13/06 04:16 PM
.*He especially loves virgins getting slashed scenes  Shelle05/13/06 04:32 PM
.*Re: He especially loves virgins getting slashed scenes  to_dizzy05/13/06 04:35 PM
.*Re: Adam = Diamond Dave wannabe  to_dippy05/13/06 04:20 PM
.*Don't make me print your pathetic begging PMs  Shelle05/13/06 01:01 PM
.*Resistance is futile  ohramonaModerator05/13/06 09:06 AM
.*Re: Some self awareness at last  Monkeyboy05/13/06 06:17 AM
.*K only liked you cos he thought you were a guy  power2charm05/12/06 07:12 PM
.*And he doesn't like you cuz he knows you're not?  Shelle05/13/06 10:40 AM
.*Doesn't like me? I've got me a tub of K-LUV!  power2charm05/13/06 03:35 PM
.*You do take such pride in your ass-licking  Shelle05/13/06 04:28 PM
.*Re: Doesn't like me? I've got me a tub of K-LUV!  Pablo-Picasso05/13/06 03:55 PM
.*Re: Some self awareness at last  Adim05/12/06 05:21 PM
.*Re: Some self awareness at last  EJSundae05/12/06 05:28 PM
.*Re: People don't like getting to know me.  Atonalexpress05/12/06 04:15 PM
.*Re: People don't like getting to know me.  KModerator05/12/06 05:58 AM
.*Re: People don't like getting to know me.  JarethsGirl05/11/06 10:01 PM
.*Re: People don't like getting to know me.  NomDeFlume05/11/06 09:30 PM
.*Re: People don't like getting to know me.  Monkeyboy05/12/06 06:13 AM
.*Re: Power corrupts idiots  NomDePlume05/09/06 09:51 PM
.*Re: Power corrupts idiots  Pablo-Picasso05/09/06 12:18 PM
.*Re: Power corrupts idiots  KModerator05/09/06 03:57 PM
.*Re: Power corrupts idiots  Monkeyboy05/09/06 04:01 PM
.*Re: Power corrupts idiots  Shelle05/09/06 11:57 AM
.*Re: Power corrupts idiots  Beltene05/10/06 00:37 AM
.*Re: Power corrupts idiots  KModerator05/10/06 02:20 PM
.*Now it's bad cop, worse cop, unspeakable cop  Shelle05/10/06 04:52 PM
.*Explaining jokes  KModerator05/11/06 03:45 AM
.*Re: Explaining jokes  Shelle05/11/06 01:33 PM
.*Re: Explaining jokes  AdamAdministrator05/11/06 10:54 AM
.*Gloating just like you'd expect a small man to  Shelle05/11/06 01:39 PM
.*Re: Gloating just like you'd expect a small man to  Adim05/11/06 05:27 PM
.*Re: Gloating just like you'd expect a small man to  EJSundae05/11/06 05:31 PM
.*Re: Gloating just like you'd expect a small man to  Adim05/11/06 05:40 PM
.*Re: Gloating just like you'd expect a small man to  EJSundae05/11/06 05:42 PM
.*Re: Gloating just like you'd expect a small man to  Adim05/11/06 05:45 PM
.*Re: Gloating just like you'd expect a small man to  EJSundae05/11/06 05:47 PM
.*Happy early mother's day!  skeezix05/10/06 07:58 PM
.*Happy belated birthday, son!  ohramonaModerator05/10/06 08:00 PM
.*Re: Happy belated birthday, son!  NomDePlume05/11/06 10:19 AM
.*Re: Happy belated birthday, son!  ohramonaModerator05/11/06 02:25 PM
.*Re: Happy belated birthday, son!  NomDeFlume05/11/06 09:33 PM
.*Re: Power corrupts idiots  Monkeyboy05/10/06 02:36 PM
.*Powerful midgets fuck corrupt individuals  RabbitFighter05/09/06 08:25 PM
.*Re: Powerful midgets fuck corrupt individuals  Shelle05/09/06 08:54 PM
.*Re: Powerful midgets fuck corrupt individuals  RabbitFighter05/09/06 09:17 PM
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