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08/29/06 05:18 PM
I should be in bed, you know. [re: Auntie Prism]  

In reply to:

Thank you for clarifying this point. Your previous post gave the impression that the thread dated from before b_mardle's banning.


My mistake, then.

Regarding Ohro, I'm not the person qualified to make any decisions on her regard. Of course I can talk about this with her but since we're if equal status I can't force her to do or not do something.

Regarding my rather heated post about Dogz... first of all, I wasn't being serious about banning people. I realise people might take it literally but that was not my intention, and I believe the points I made later against banning Dogz also gave a hint to that direction.

I feel that Dogz is being made into scapegoat here. TW isn't as active as it has been, we've lost some good posters and there aren't many new ones coming in, and people need to blame this on someone... so they pick the most obvious target, the mass-posting guy who seemingly isn't as intelligent as the majority of posters*. So people start bullying the weak, doing their best to have him ejected because they think this will solve all the problems. And of course it won't.

I realise that the best counter-argument to this is saying that Dogz has caused a lot of posters to leave. But I ask you, in the name of all honesty, is he really that annoying that all by himself he has caused a mass exodus from TW? Or is his presece just a contributing factor (and in some cases the straw that breaks the camel's back)?

For the record, I'm not saying that you shouldn't dislike Dogz, and that even if you do you should behave nice to him. But you should stop talking about him all the time, because that accomplishes absolutely nothing except hasten the decay of these boards.

* = Before I get another angry PM: I'm not saying Dogz is stupid, just that he does sometimes comes across as such. And that he perhaps is percieved to be stupid by a number of posters. Hence making him an easy target.

In reply to:

All posters who were ever banned were banned because they pissed somebody off.


If we get into this conversation, I'll lose. I know it. Never the less I'll adress your points and then watch you shoot them down.

b_mardle: He was annoying people, yes, but by trying to steal their passwords he also could have locked out people from TW, if a poster had an e-mail adress that is no longer active listed on the fan registry (as was my case for a while). In this case they would have never recieved the new password and hence could no longer access their account.

Altoid, Tumble 'n' Twirl and all the other one-liners: The difference between these and Dogz is that Dogz sometimes actually contributes something to the site. Unlike a poster whose all posts just say "That's Fantastic!".

Dogz: As has been stated several times on this thread, before his first ban he was hostile towards other users and really flooding the whole forum. Although he still posts more than an average (active) poster, he's nowhere near the numbers he was in before his ban. Personally I don't think he posted too much even before his recent restriction. That said I don't read everything that goes on Coffee Shop so a lot of his posts might pass me by and hence I admit I'm not the person to judge his conduct in that forum.

With Alex I could not say because what took place with him happened before my time (or when I was absent otherwise).

The final point stands however: Dogz contributes something to the site, at least the Bowie Talk section. To the best of my knowledge the other posters who have been banned either did not or (in the case of Billy Mardle) were actually trying to harm other posters in some way.

This post is far too long. But to wrap things up: people are not being fair on Dogz. He certainly isn't the best poster on these boards, but for all his flaws he certainly does not deserve to be banned, for the reasons outlined above.

"Are we making any progress?"
"None whatever," said Hercule Poirot. "That is interesting."



 
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*MODS: DOGZ 5 POST LIMIT EXCEEDED  anisette*08/15/06 03:14 PM
.*I'm a no limits kinda gal  Shelle08/19/06 01:58 PM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  Atonalexpress08/20/06 05:31 PM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  Shelle08/26/06 03:17 PM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  Atonalexpress08/26/06 05:11 PM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  schizophrenic08/27/06 01:42 PM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  Pablo-Picasso08/27/06 01:53 PM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  schizophrenic08/28/06 02:02 AM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  96dbFreak08/29/06 09:03 AM
.*An enemy of my enemy is Stu  Remade/Remodeled08/29/06 10:54 AM
.*Wankers.  KModerator08/29/06 02:22 PM
.*Beating on my drum  Auntie Prism08/29/06 03:47 PM
..I should be in bed, you know.  KModerator08/29/06 05:18 PM
.*The Real Issue  PHOENIX08/30/06 02:19 AM
.*Joe Average  KModerator08/30/06 09:25 AM
.*Re: Joe Average  PHOENIX08/30/06 10:17 AM
.*Re: Joe Average  th0mas08/30/06 12:02 PM
.*Re: Joe Average  PHOENIX08/31/06 01:39 AM
.*Re: Joe Average  KModerator08/31/06 04:18 PM
.*Re: Joe Average  PHOENIX08/31/06 11:14 PM
.*Re: Joe Average  EJSundayModerator08/30/06 12:17 PM
.*Re: I should be in bed, you know.  ghostlove08/29/06 07:51 PM
.*Re: I should be in bed, you know.  PHOENIX08/30/06 02:24 AM
.*Re: I should be in bed, you know.  ghostlove08/30/06 02:46 AM
.*Who you callin' a wanker?  ani the gun08/29/06 02:34 PM
.*sleepmoderator  ani the gun08/29/06 11:17 AM
.*Re: sleepmoderator  EJ08/29/06 11:37 AM
.*heissenslips  ani the gun08/29/06 01:08 PM
.*Re: heissenslips  th0mas08/29/06 01:16 PM
.*aufwiedersehen goodnight!!!  ani the gun08/29/06 01:31 PM
.*Same old shit in brand new posts.  Pablo-Picasso08/29/06 11:10 AM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  th0mas08/29/06 09:39 AM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  schizophrenic08/29/06 10:50 AM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  th0mas08/29/06 11:17 AM
.*Shock horror: Half of TW can't count either!  Auntie Prism08/29/06 12:01 PM
.*in bozoville  ani the gun08/29/06 12:20 PM
.*No Dogs  EJ08/29/06 12:03 PM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  schizophrenic08/29/06 11:29 AM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  th0mas08/29/06 01:12 PM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  schizophrenic08/29/06 09:54 PM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  schizophrenic08/30/06 06:17 PM
.*Give The Dogs A Home  EJSundayModerator08/29/06 10:32 AM
.*Re: Give The Dogs A Home  Pablo-Picasso08/29/06 10:33 AM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  PHOENIX08/20/06 09:59 PM
.*Re: I'm a no limits kinda gal  Bamboo708/21/06 01:50 PM
.*When I need to put 'fooling around' icons on them  PHOENIX08/21/06 11:11 PM
.*Re: When I need to put 'fooling around' icons on them  Bamboo708/22/06 10:10 AM
.*Now, I wish you had actually said that before now  PHOENIX08/22/06 11:00 AM
.*My first and last post in this bizzare thread  diamondogz7408/22/06 03:35 PM
.*Boys who want girls to be dogs who do boys like...  ani the gun08/22/06 03:48 PM
.*Tell me more, was she a heavy doper?  Remade/Remodeled08/22/06 00:41 AM
.*Evil Mastermind!  PHOENIX08/22/06 01:12 AM
.*Awww Shelly. I'd leave if it meant Dogz did...  PHOENIX08/20/06 01:04 AM
.*Re: I'm Emil's kinda gal  Emil08/19/06 05:14 PM
.*Re: I'm Emil's kinda gal  Froggy Starlust08/19/06 07:50 PM
.*You smell of newbie  Hannibal_Lecter08/19/06 02:26 PM
.*Re: You smell of newbie  Hannibal_Lecter08/19/06 03:10 PM
.*Banana  EJSundayModerator08/20/06 08:44 AM
.*We are totally missing the real point here...  Remade/Remodeled08/20/06 02:17 PM
.*Re: We are totally missing the real point here...  Froggy Starlust08/21/06 09:18 AM
.*Tender slopes  Remade/Remodeled08/21/06 01:50 PM
.*A-Team  ohramonaModerator08/20/06 02:35 PM
.*Re: MODS: DOGZ 5 POST LIMIT EXCEEDED  Persilot08/16/06 02:08 PM
.*Freedom of speech won't feed my children  Remade/Remodeled08/15/06 11:55 PM
.*Blockbuster if there ever was one  RabbitFighter08/16/06 07:42 AM
.*A compromise Please  PHOENIX08/16/06 02:15 AM
.*Re: A compromise Please  th0mas08/16/06 05:04 AM
.*TW is fine with me or without me  PHOENIX08/16/06 05:25 AM
.*No it isn't, but you're refusing to be reasonable  KModerator08/16/06 06:48 AM
.*It all comes down to a pretty simple equation  PHOENIX08/16/06 07:05 AM
.*Re: It all comes down to a pretty simple equation  KModerator08/16/06 07:09 AM
.*1 & a 2 & a ....  ohramonaModerator08/16/06 07:23 AM
.*Re: 1 & a 2 & a ....  diamondogz7408/16/06 09:56 AM
.*Re: 1 & a 2 & a ....  EJSundayModerator08/16/06 09:57 AM
.*Fucking with...  KModerator08/16/06 12:58 PM
.*Enlightenment  EJSundayModerator08/17/06 07:44 AM
.*Re: Enlightenment  th0mas08/18/06 06:59 AM
.*1, 2, 3, what are we fighting four!  ohramonaModerator08/16/06 12:47 PM
.*Jaa, ei, tyhjiä, poissa  KModerator08/16/06 01:00 PM
.*Don't ask me, I don't give a damn  FastChanges.08/16/06 12:58 PM
.*My favorite alter!  Bamboo708/16/06 03:58 PM
.*Re: My favorite alter!  FastChanges.08/17/06 01:00 PM
.*Re: Don't ask me, I don't give a damn  Froggy Starlust08/16/06 01:15 PM
.*Re: Don't ask me, I don't give a damn  ohramonaModerator08/16/06 01:02 PM
.*Re: It all comes down to a pretty simple equation  PHOENIX08/16/06 07:19 AM
.*Metaphysics  KModerator08/16/06 07:26 AM
.*Re: Metaphysics  Pablo-Picasso08/16/06 08:15 AM
.*Common-sense? Prevails!  dimmindogz7408/16/06 08:42 AM
.*Re: Common-sense? Prevails!  96dbFreak08/16/06 09:32 AM
.*Media Savvy!  PHOENIX08/16/06 07:49 AM
.*Re: Media Savvy!  th0mas08/16/06 10:04 AM
.*Re: Media Savvy!  PHOENIX08/16/06 10:26 AM
.*What's the Hub Bub?  Atonalexpress08/15/06 06:33 PM
.*Re: MODS: DOGZ 5 POST LIMIT EXCEEDED  Persilot08/15/06 06:18 PM
.*Re: MODS: DOGZ 5 POST LIMIT EXCEEDED  ghostlove08/15/06 03:33 PM
.*Re: MODS: DOGZ 5 POST LIMIT EXCEEDED  RabbitFighter08/15/06 03:49 PM
.*Re: MODS: DOGZ 5 POST LIMIT EXCEEDED  ghostlove08/15/06 03:51 PM
.*The most wonderful time of the year  RabbitFighter08/15/06 03:23 PM
.*Re: The most wonderful time of the year  anisette*08/15/06 03:28 PM
.*Re: The most wonderful time of the year  Pablo-Picasso08/15/06 03:29 PM
.*I apologise for the hideous colour scheme  Auntie Prism08/15/06 03:23 PM
.*Re: I apologise for the hideous colour scheme  anisette*08/15/06 03:25 PM
.*Ding dong, the witch is dead  Auntie Prism08/15/06 03:31 PM
.*Re: I apologise for the hideous colour scheme  ohramonaModerator08/15/06 03:28 PM
.*He can count to five.   PHOENIX08/15/06 03:37 PM
.*Re: He can count to five.   ohramonaModerator08/15/06 03:45 PM
.*Goodbye folks  PHOENIX08/15/06 03:49 PM
.*Re: He can count to five.   anisette*08/15/06 03:47 PM
.*Re: He can count to five.   ohramonaModerator08/15/06 03:50 PM
.*Re: He can count to five.   anisette*08/15/06 03:55 PM
.*Re: He can count to five.   ohramonaModerator08/15/06 03:59 PM
.*Re: He can count to five.   Strawman08/16/06 09:06 AM
.*Re: He can count to five.   anisette*08/15/06 04:10 PM
.*Cookies are trivial  ohramonaModerator08/15/06 04:19 PM
.*Cookiemonster, was it really about counting to 5?  th0mas08/15/06 05:15 PM
.*Re: Cookies are trivial  Cookie_Monster08/15/06 05:00 PM
.*Re: Cookies are trivial  schizophrenic08/15/06 04:39 PM
.*Between my last two posts, Ohro got her ass tanned  Auntie Prism08/15/06 05:10 PM
.*Between last post and this one? pwned.  ohramonaModerator08/15/06 07:28 PM
.*Re: Between my last two posts, Ohro got her ass ta  KModerator08/15/06 05:50 PM
.*Now that I'm suitably bored  Auntie Prism08/27/06 03:41 PM
.*Re: Now that I'm suitably bored  KModerator08/27/06 05:26 PM
.*Fight the real enemy!  RabbitFighter08/27/06 04:01 PM
.*Re: Between my last two posts, Ohro got her ass ta  Pablo-Picasso08/15/06 06:24 PM
.*I can't believe I'm saying this  RabbitFighter08/15/06 06:37 PM
.*Seeing is Believing  Marquis08/15/06 07:04 PM
.*I am become death: the defender of Dogz  Marquis08/15/06 06:17 PM
.*Because I have no friends here, I can say this  eraserhead08/16/06 08:39 AM
.*You have a friend in Jesus  Marquis08/16/06 12:05 PM
.*Re: Because I have no friends here, I can say this  th0mas08/16/06 09:58 AM
.*My new sig is fitting.  KModerator08/15/06 05:29 PM
.*Re: Cookies are trivial  anisette*08/15/06 04:35 PM
.*Re: He can count to five.   Pablo-Picasso08/15/06 04:13 PM
.*It's like fucking Xanadu man!  RabbitFighter08/15/06 04:17 PM
.*Re: It's like fucking Xanadu man!  anisette*08/15/06 04:29 PM
.*Re: He can count to five.   Pablo-Picasso08/15/06 03:48 PM
.*The mirror has one moustache  Monkeyboy08/15/06 07:19 PM
.*Re: The mirror has one moustache  96dbFreak08/15/06 11:38 PM
.*He Is Controllable  EJSundayModerator08/16/06 08:08 AM
.*Re: He Is Controllable  96dbFreak08/16/06 08:14 AM
.*Re: He Is Controllable  EJSundayModerator08/16/06 09:38 AM
.*Re: He Is Controllable  96dbFreak08/16/06 10:06 AM
.*Re: He Is Controllable  th0mas08/16/06 10:31 AM
.*Re: He Is Controllable  96dbFreak08/16/06 10:50 AM
.*Re: He Is Controllable  Atonalexpress08/18/06 03:53 AM
.*Re: He Is Controllable  th0mas08/16/06 12:47 PM
.*Re: The mirror has one moustache  Pablo-Picasso08/15/06 07:48 PM
.*Re: The mirror has one moustache  KModerator08/15/06 09:08 PM
.*OH COME ON!!!  anisette*08/15/06 03:34 PM
.*Mercy me ... and you  ohramonaModerator08/15/06 03:37 PM
.*Re: Mercy me ... and you  anisette*08/15/06 03:38 PM
.*Re: Mercy me ... and you  ohramonaModerator08/15/06 03:41 PM
.*Re: Mercy me ... and you  anisette*08/15/06 03:44 PM
.*Re: Mercy me ... and you  ghostlove08/15/06 03:43 PM
.*Re: Mercy me ... and you  ohramonaModerator08/15/06 03:45 PM
.*Re: Mercy me ... and you  Pablo-Picasso08/15/06 03:40 PM
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