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eraserhead
(stardust savant)
01/21/04 12:14 PM
You guys are so old! [re: EJSunday]  

Ok, I re-read your post Dara and here's what I make of it now. What you're saying here:

In reply to:

The older you get, the harder it is to shock. We've seen all the tricks before, so they shouldn't surprise us. Yet some fans seem genuinely surprised by Bowie's "negative" partial retreat into the mainstream after a mid 90s spent making deliberately contrary albums.


...is that Bowie, now an old man, is finding it hard to shock people these days. All the tricks have been played, there's nothing more he could do that would surprise us. He's run out of gas, so to speak. The last time he brought forward a new, "contrary" idea/album was in 1997 with Earthling. Now that is over, that was the last new idea, that was the last trick, the last contrary album. And yet some fans (this one for example) seem surprised by this, that Bowie has to retreat back to the mainstream. Did I get it right this time?


In reply to:

EJSunday: I got bored with Iggy


That's totally OK. I never intended this to be a thread about Iggy Pop, he was just mentioned in the quote by Bowie, but this thread was really about Bowie. I'm okay with you getting bored with Iggy. Also, I've been into Iggy for about 11 years, it's not like I got into him yesterday.

But I do understand what you're saying about giving up on artists, or them giving up on your, or however you want to put it. I actually was a huge Tori Amos fan in the mid 90s, but then she released a very bad album in 1998, and followed that one up with three or four even worse albums, well, not really, but that's how I felt, so we lost contact, so to speak.

Yesterday I burned myself a Tori Amos best of CD, and decided to put one new song of hers on it, which was from the last Tori album I bought (in 2001), and, to my surprise, I liked it almost as much as some of the older, classic tracks, that got me into her. I thought that was interesting.

I almost fell out of love with Frank Black two years ago. He was my second favourite artist for a great while in the 90s and earrly 00s, but then he released a couple albums that just sounded horrible to me, especially production-wise, but he followed those up with his best album ever last Fall, and I'm as into Frank Black as I ever were (got into him thanks to Bowie, btw, in 1997)




"I speak what yah weak mind lacks" -Missy Elliott



 
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*Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  eraserhead01/19/04 03:39 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  pablopicasso04/29/04 10:18 AM
.*Rock on and on and on ad infinitum  diamondogz7404/29/04 03:09 PM
.*Re: Rock on and on and on ad infinitum  prrrrr04/30/04 11:15 AM
.*Re: Rock on and on and on ad infinitum  diamondogz7405/01/04 07:11 AM
.*Re: Rock on and on and on ad infinitum  pablopicasso05/01/04 07:23 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  prrrrr04/29/04 02:39 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  jabow04/29/04 02:03 PM
.*Is NoControl defying sanity with A Reality Tour?  EJSundayModerator04/29/04 10:34 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  soho_beatnik02/06/04 03:59 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  thekillingmoon02/05/04 04:38 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  NoControl01/26/04 04:29 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  dice01/27/04 07:31 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  globule201/28/04 01:21 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  NoControl01/28/04 01:23 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  globule201/28/04 01:28 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  NoControl01/28/04 01:46 AM
.*More Statistics  EJSundayModerator01/28/04 08:13 AM
.*Re: More Statistics  globule201/28/04 09:44 AM
.*Re: More Statistics  bowiefanpeter01/28/04 04:53 PM
.*Re: More Ignorance  NoControl01/28/04 08:27 PM
.*Re: More Ignorance  globule201/28/04 10:51 PM
.*Re: Ignorance is a funny thing  NoControl01/29/04 04:35 AM
.*Re: More Statistics  jabow01/28/04 05:26 PM
.*Re: More Statistics  globule201/28/04 06:49 PM
.*Re: More Statistics  bowiefanpeter01/30/04 09:06 PM
.*Re: More Statistics  NoControl01/30/04 09:41 PM
.*Re: More Statistics  th0mas01/29/04 08:02 AM
.*Re: More Statistics  Dara01/29/04 12:05 PM
.*Re: More Statistics  dice01/29/04 01:53 PM
.*Set List Categories  EJSundayModerator01/30/04 06:22 AM
.*More Imaginary Statistics  EJSundayModerator01/28/04 11:19 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  BillHague01/28/04 02:27 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Nature_Boy01/21/04 05:11 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Claude01/20/04 04:17 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  eraserhead01/20/04 06:21 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Claude01/21/04 03:45 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Emil01/21/04 03:54 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Dara01/22/04 06:27 AM
.*Defy My Money  poorsoul01/22/04 05:52 PM
.*Re: Defy My Money  Dara01/23/04 07:17 AM
.*More Money  poorsoul01/29/04 11:52 PM
.*Re: Defy My Money  poorsoul01/29/04 11:42 PM
.*Painting yourself into a corner  eraserhead01/23/04 07:52 AM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  SoulLoveChild01/23/04 07:48 PM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  bowiefanpeter01/23/04 07:59 PM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  pablopicasso01/23/04 08:48 PM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  bowiefanpeter01/23/04 09:04 PM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  Dara01/27/04 06:29 AM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  christiancode01/29/04 08:22 PM
.*Hits schmits  Dara01/30/04 06:52 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  bowiefanpeter01/30/04 09:43 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  NoControl01/30/04 09:28 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  Dara02/05/04 06:51 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  NoControl02/05/04 07:19 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  dice02/05/04 01:31 PM
.*Bits Fits  poorsoul02/06/04 00:02 AM
.*Re: Is this a joke?  NoControl02/06/04 02:07 AM
.*Re: Bits Fits  globule202/06/04 01:09 AM
.*Gits  poorsoul02/06/04 11:44 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  zigbot02/05/04 02:40 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  NoControl02/05/04 06:40 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  Dara02/06/04 06:24 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  NoControl02/06/04 06:58 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  Dara02/06/04 03:38 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  jabow02/06/04 02:58 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  NoControl02/06/04 08:08 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  dice02/06/04 01:45 PM
.*Get real paid  White Prism02/06/04 03:30 PM
.*Re: Get real paid  dice02/06/04 07:03 PM
.*A Hit Is Not Simply A Song You Think Is One  EJSundayModerator02/07/04 06:39 AM
.*Re: Oh Really?  NoControl02/07/04 07:46 AM
.*Lies, Damned Lies  poorsoul02/07/04 11:22 PM
.*what *is* he?  JonnyManic02/07/04 06:09 PM
.*Re: To my best friend...  NoControl02/08/04 08:03 PM
.*Re: To my best friend...  CAwesome02/08/04 08:18 PM
.*Re: Duh!  NoControl02/08/04 08:22 PM
.*Look  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 03:47 AM
.*Re: Zzzzzzzz....  NoControl02/09/04 04:03 AM
.*you simply never get it right  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 04:13 AM
.*Re: YOU simply never get it right  NoControl02/09/04 04:25 AM
.*Why don't you answer my posts?  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 06:52 AM
.*Re: Why don't you answer my posts?  NoControl02/09/04 07:06 AM
.*Re: Why don't you answer my posts?  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 07:14 AM
.*Re: Because I don't want to repeat myself  NoControl02/09/04 09:37 AM
.*Re: Because I don't want to repeat myself  Emil02/10/04 04:06 AM
.*Re: Because I don't want to repeat myself  NoControl02/10/04 06:07 AM
.*More Lunacy From The TWer Without Any Clue  EJSundayModerator02/10/04 06:40 AM
.*Re: More Lunacy From The TWer Without Any Clue  NoControl02/10/04 07:06 AM
.*Re: More Lunacy From The TWer Without Any Clue  EJSundayModerator02/10/04 07:20 AM
.*Re: Out of your depth, completely  NoControl02/10/04 07:46 AM
.*Too Narrow Minded  EJSundayModerator02/10/04 08:24 AM
.*Re: Only hearing what you want to hear..  NoControl02/10/04 05:30 PM
.*I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  EJSundayModerator02/10/04 05:43 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  NoControl02/10/04 05:46 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  dice02/10/04 07:37 PM
.*Bloated  poorsoul02/10/04 11:53 PM
.*Semantics  Dara02/11/04 04:41 AM
.*Re: Semantics  globule202/11/04 09:30 AM
.*Re: Semantics  Dara02/11/04 02:04 PM
.*Re: Completely wrong  NoControl02/11/04 06:37 PM
.*Uair eile leis an ri amadan  Dara02/12/04 04:46 AM
.*Re: Uair eile leis an ri amadan  dice02/12/04 01:56 PM
.*Re: Uair eile leis an ri amadan  diamondogz7402/12/04 02:45 PM
.*SOUND + VISION 2  christiancode02/13/04 08:14 AM
.*Re: SOUND + VISION 2  bowiefanpeter02/14/04 05:00 AM
.*Re: Uair eile leis an ri amadan  NoControl02/12/04 05:05 AM
.*Re: Uair eile leis an ri amadan  Dara02/12/04 07:46 AM
.*Re: Uair eile leis an ri amadan  NoControl02/12/04 08:18 AM
.*Re: Semantics  NoControl02/11/04 06:41 AM
.*Re: Semantics  pablopicasso02/11/04 06:45 PM
.*Re: Semantics  NoControl02/11/04 06:51 PM
.*Re: Semantics  pablopicasso02/11/04 07:06 PM
.*Re: Semantics  NoControl02/11/04 07:24 PM
.*Re: Semantics  CAwesome02/11/04 08:31 PM
.*Defining obscure hits and greatest hits tours  pablopicasso02/11/04 07:54 PM
.*Re: Defining obscure hits and greatest hits tours  NoControl02/11/04 08:17 PM
.*Re: Defining obscure hits and greatest hits tours  pablopicasso02/12/04 02:45 AM
.*Re: Defining obscure hits and greatest hits tours  NoControl02/12/04 03:53 AM
.*Re: Defining obscure hits and greatest hits tours  dice02/11/04 08:33 PM
.*Re: Bloated  bowiefanpeter02/11/04 00:31 AM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  BillHague02/10/04 08:38 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  dice02/11/04 08:36 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  NoControl02/10/04 09:33 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  pablopicasso02/10/04 06:04 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  diamondogz7402/12/04 08:49 AM
.*Boys Keep Arguing  EJSundayModerator02/10/04 06:12 PM
.*Re: Because I don't want to repeat myself  dice02/09/04 02:10 PM
.*Re: Why don't you answer my posts?  bowiefanpeter02/09/04 07:24 AM
.*Re: Why don't you answer my posts?  NoControl02/09/04 09:38 AM
.*Re: Why don't you answer my posts?  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 11:36 AM
.*Are You Answering My Post?  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 08:49 AM
.*Re: what *is* he?  jabow02/07/04 11:00 PM
.*Re: Probably not, unless...  NoControl02/08/04 08:12 PM
.*Re: Oh Really?  dice02/07/04 02:41 PM
.*Hits Schmitz  pablopicasso02/07/04 02:52 PM
.*Re: Hits Schmitz  diamondogz7402/09/04 08:07 AM
.*In The Next World  poorsoul02/07/04 00:10 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  CAwesome02/05/04 08:40 PM
.*Why? Why?  poorsoul02/05/04 11:01 PM
.*Re: Why? Why?  CAwesome02/06/04 03:44 PM
.*Re: Why? Why?  poorsoul02/06/04 11:57 PM
.*Boring for who?  pablopicasso02/06/04 03:40 AM
.*Mediocrity For All  poorsoul02/06/04 11:53 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  dice02/05/04 08:13 PM
.*Can't Hit This  poorsoul02/01/04 01:14 AM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  NoControl01/30/04 00:03 AM
.*Putting Out Fire With Gasoline  EJSundayModerator01/27/04 06:37 AM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  Dara01/23/04 09:46 AM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  dice01/23/04 08:00 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  diamondogz7401/22/04 08:01 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Claude01/21/04 04:19 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  pablopicasso01/21/04 04:00 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  Emil01/22/04 04:06 AM
.*knock it off  Emil01/21/04 05:19 PM
.*Sound revisionism  Dara01/20/04 06:45 AM
.*Re: Sound revisionism  SysiyoModerator01/20/04 03:20 PM
.*too bad he didn't do it in Helsinki then  Emil01/21/04 09:24 AM
.*Not A Chart Show  EJSundayModerator01/20/04 07:49 AM
.*Re: Not A Chart Show  gus_01/20/04 09:29 AM
.*Re: Not A Chart Show  gus_01/20/04 09:50 AM
.*Re: Not A Chart Show  eraserhead01/20/04 09:49 AM
.*Minstrel In The Gallery  EJSundayModerator01/20/04 10:54 AM
.*Not Defying  Si_rocks01/20/04 09:54 AM
.*Re: Sound revisionism  eraserhead01/20/04 07:18 AM
.*Re: Sound revisionism  Dara01/21/04 05:59 AM
.*here's my theory  eraserhead01/21/04 10:06 AM
.*I Am Too Old For Retro  EJSundayModerator01/21/04 11:05 AM
.*Re: I Am Too Old For Retro  Schenk01/21/04 12:36 PM
.*Two In One - But Still There Are Differences  EJSundayModerator01/22/04 05:41 AM
..You guys are so old!  eraserhead01/21/04 12:14 PM
.*Re: You guys are so old!  Dara01/21/04 01:28 PM
.*Re: here's my theory  Dara01/21/04 10:26 AM
.*Standards And Changes  EJSundayModerator01/21/04 07:00 AM
.*Re: Standards And Changes  Si_rocks01/21/04 08:39 AM
.*Miffled  poorsoul01/22/04 00:18 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  SysiyoModerator01/20/04 04:12 AM
.*Good post Sysiyo  eraserhead01/20/04 06:17 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  CAwesome01/19/04 08:59 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  dice01/20/04 01:32 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  SoulLoveChild01/20/04 06:22 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  dice01/20/04 07:20 PM
.*dice didn't defy expectations either  SoulLoveChild01/21/04 01:47 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  jabow01/20/04 07:27 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  pablopicasso01/20/04 06:58 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  tv eye01/19/04 11:25 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  bowiefanpeter01/19/04 09:22 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  dukewhite01/19/04 08:19 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  dice01/19/04 08:12 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  diamondogz7401/19/04 08:02 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  tragicyouth01/19/04 07:51 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  HelenaOfGale01/19/04 04:22 PM
.*Why do you say that  Emil01/19/04 04:19 PM
.*Why do I say what?  eraserhead01/19/04 04:54 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Beltene01/19/04 03:52 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Jubany01/19/04 04:10 PM
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