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dice
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02/10/04 07:37 PM
Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here [re: NoControl]  

let's go with basic logic:

-playing more hits than he did in the '90s does not make it a greatest hits tour. only a few hits have been added to the repotoire from the '90s tours!

-less hits are being performed on this tour than on the sound and vision tour DESPITE longer setlists

-PRACTICALLY EVERY SINGLE HIT was played on the sound and vision tour ON A NIGHTLY BASIS! that is the very definition of a greatest hits tour. the reality tour, on the other hand, plays some hits a lot, some hits occasionally, and some hits not at all

-fans expecting a greatest hits show on the reality tour would be somewhat disappointed

-the songs performed on sound and vision that aren't technically hits were still amongst his most popular songs. several songs on reality tour are less well-known, such as 'the motel'

-everyone can agree that his pre-'90s work is the most popular. the S&V tour featured entirely pre-90s material

-a tour featuring a significant amount of new material is not a greatest hits tour!!!

IF "GREATEST HITS" WAS DEFINED BY YOU, NEARLY EVERY TOUR OUT THERE WOULD BE A GREATEST HITS TOUR

ask a handful of people at the show if they're there because it's a greatest hits show. they'd either say no or look at you funny (although in your case i'm not sure you'd know the difference between that and the way they normally look at you)

-you're is the same crazy bastard that said something like 20% of the reality crowds would be there exclusively to see macy gray at the shows that she opened. maybe that's why attendance has spiked!

-you're also the same crazy bastard that said attendance is sometimes increased in part because the price goes up. maybe that's why attendance has spiked!

"eh, i'm not terribly interested in seeing bowie anymore"
"but...but...he's playing modern love and blue jean sometimes. and you can pay more this time! and MACY GRAY is opening!!!
"holy shit! count me in!!!

In reply to:

facts and truth aren't that reliable


the problem is that you use facts for something entirely different from the truth



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*Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  eraserhead01/19/04 03:39 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  pablopicasso04/29/04 10:18 AM
.*Rock on and on and on ad infinitum  diamondogz7404/29/04 03:09 PM
.*Re: Rock on and on and on ad infinitum  prrrrr04/30/04 11:15 AM
.*Re: Rock on and on and on ad infinitum  diamondogz7405/01/04 07:11 AM
.*Re: Rock on and on and on ad infinitum  pablopicasso05/01/04 07:23 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  prrrrr04/29/04 02:39 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  jabow04/29/04 02:03 PM
.*Is NoControl defying sanity with A Reality Tour?  EJSundayModerator04/29/04 10:34 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  soho_beatnik02/06/04 03:59 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  thekillingmoon02/05/04 04:38 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  NoControl01/26/04 04:29 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  dice01/27/04 07:31 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  globule201/28/04 01:21 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  NoControl01/28/04 01:23 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  globule201/28/04 01:28 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  NoControl01/28/04 01:46 AM
.*More Statistics  EJSundayModerator01/28/04 08:13 AM
.*Re: More Statistics  globule201/28/04 09:44 AM
.*Re: More Statistics  bowiefanpeter01/28/04 04:53 PM
.*Re: More Ignorance  NoControl01/28/04 08:27 PM
.*Re: More Ignorance  globule201/28/04 10:51 PM
.*Re: Ignorance is a funny thing  NoControl01/29/04 04:35 AM
.*Re: More Statistics  jabow01/28/04 05:26 PM
.*Re: More Statistics  globule201/28/04 06:49 PM
.*Re: More Statistics  bowiefanpeter01/30/04 09:06 PM
.*Re: More Statistics  NoControl01/30/04 09:41 PM
.*Re: More Statistics  th0mas01/29/04 08:02 AM
.*Re: More Statistics  Dara01/29/04 12:05 PM
.*Re: More Statistics  dice01/29/04 01:53 PM
.*Set List Categories  EJSundayModerator01/30/04 06:22 AM
.*More Imaginary Statistics  EJSundayModerator01/28/04 11:19 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  BillHague01/28/04 02:27 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Nature_Boy01/21/04 05:11 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Claude01/20/04 04:17 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  eraserhead01/20/04 06:21 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Claude01/21/04 03:45 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Emil01/21/04 03:54 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Dara01/22/04 06:27 AM
.*Defy My Money  poorsoul01/22/04 05:52 PM
.*Re: Defy My Money  Dara01/23/04 07:17 AM
.*More Money  poorsoul01/29/04 11:52 PM
.*Re: Defy My Money  poorsoul01/29/04 11:42 PM
.*Painting yourself into a corner  eraserhead01/23/04 07:52 AM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  SoulLoveChild01/23/04 07:48 PM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  bowiefanpeter01/23/04 07:59 PM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  pablopicasso01/23/04 08:48 PM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  bowiefanpeter01/23/04 09:04 PM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  Dara01/27/04 06:29 AM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  christiancode01/29/04 08:22 PM
.*Hits schmits  Dara01/30/04 06:52 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  bowiefanpeter01/30/04 09:43 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  NoControl01/30/04 09:28 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  Dara02/05/04 06:51 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  NoControl02/05/04 07:19 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  dice02/05/04 01:31 PM
.*Bits Fits  poorsoul02/06/04 00:02 AM
.*Re: Is this a joke?  NoControl02/06/04 02:07 AM
.*Re: Bits Fits  globule202/06/04 01:09 AM
.*Gits  poorsoul02/06/04 11:44 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  zigbot02/05/04 02:40 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  NoControl02/05/04 06:40 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  Dara02/06/04 06:24 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  NoControl02/06/04 06:58 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  Dara02/06/04 03:38 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  jabow02/06/04 02:58 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  NoControl02/06/04 08:08 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  dice02/06/04 01:45 PM
.*Get real paid  White Prism02/06/04 03:30 PM
.*Re: Get real paid  dice02/06/04 07:03 PM
.*A Hit Is Not Simply A Song You Think Is One  EJSundayModerator02/07/04 06:39 AM
.*Re: Oh Really?  NoControl02/07/04 07:46 AM
.*Lies, Damned Lies  poorsoul02/07/04 11:22 PM
.*what *is* he?  JonnyManic02/07/04 06:09 PM
.*Re: To my best friend...  NoControl02/08/04 08:03 PM
.*Re: To my best friend...  CAwesome02/08/04 08:18 PM
.*Re: Duh!  NoControl02/08/04 08:22 PM
.*Look  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 03:47 AM
.*Re: Zzzzzzzz....  NoControl02/09/04 04:03 AM
.*you simply never get it right  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 04:13 AM
.*Re: YOU simply never get it right  NoControl02/09/04 04:25 AM
.*Why don't you answer my posts?  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 06:52 AM
.*Re: Why don't you answer my posts?  NoControl02/09/04 07:06 AM
.*Re: Why don't you answer my posts?  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 07:14 AM
.*Re: Because I don't want to repeat myself  NoControl02/09/04 09:37 AM
.*Re: Because I don't want to repeat myself  Emil02/10/04 04:06 AM
.*Re: Because I don't want to repeat myself  NoControl02/10/04 06:07 AM
.*More Lunacy From The TWer Without Any Clue  EJSundayModerator02/10/04 06:40 AM
.*Re: More Lunacy From The TWer Without Any Clue  NoControl02/10/04 07:06 AM
.*Re: More Lunacy From The TWer Without Any Clue  EJSundayModerator02/10/04 07:20 AM
.*Re: Out of your depth, completely  NoControl02/10/04 07:46 AM
.*Too Narrow Minded  EJSundayModerator02/10/04 08:24 AM
.*Re: Only hearing what you want to hear..  NoControl02/10/04 05:30 PM
.*I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  EJSundayModerator02/10/04 05:43 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  NoControl02/10/04 05:46 PM
..Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  dice02/10/04 07:37 PM
.*Bloated  poorsoul02/10/04 11:53 PM
.*Semantics  Dara02/11/04 04:41 AM
.*Re: Semantics  globule202/11/04 09:30 AM
.*Re: Semantics  Dara02/11/04 02:04 PM
.*Re: Completely wrong  NoControl02/11/04 06:37 PM
.*Uair eile leis an ri amadan  Dara02/12/04 04:46 AM
.*Re: Uair eile leis an ri amadan  dice02/12/04 01:56 PM
.*Re: Uair eile leis an ri amadan  diamondogz7402/12/04 02:45 PM
.*SOUND + VISION 2  christiancode02/13/04 08:14 AM
.*Re: SOUND + VISION 2  bowiefanpeter02/14/04 05:00 AM
.*Re: Uair eile leis an ri amadan  NoControl02/12/04 05:05 AM
.*Re: Uair eile leis an ri amadan  Dara02/12/04 07:46 AM
.*Re: Uair eile leis an ri amadan  NoControl02/12/04 08:18 AM
.*Re: Semantics  NoControl02/11/04 06:41 AM
.*Re: Semantics  pablopicasso02/11/04 06:45 PM
.*Re: Semantics  NoControl02/11/04 06:51 PM
.*Re: Semantics  pablopicasso02/11/04 07:06 PM
.*Re: Semantics  NoControl02/11/04 07:24 PM
.*Re: Semantics  CAwesome02/11/04 08:31 PM
.*Defining obscure hits and greatest hits tours  pablopicasso02/11/04 07:54 PM
.*Re: Defining obscure hits and greatest hits tours  NoControl02/11/04 08:17 PM
.*Re: Defining obscure hits and greatest hits tours  pablopicasso02/12/04 02:45 AM
.*Re: Defining obscure hits and greatest hits tours  NoControl02/12/04 03:53 AM
.*Re: Defining obscure hits and greatest hits tours  dice02/11/04 08:33 PM
.*Re: Bloated  bowiefanpeter02/11/04 00:31 AM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  BillHague02/10/04 08:38 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  dice02/11/04 08:36 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  NoControl02/10/04 09:33 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  pablopicasso02/10/04 06:04 PM
.*Re: I Admit That I Wasted Time And Space Here  diamondogz7402/12/04 08:49 AM
.*Boys Keep Arguing  EJSundayModerator02/10/04 06:12 PM
.*Re: Because I don't want to repeat myself  dice02/09/04 02:10 PM
.*Re: Why don't you answer my posts?  bowiefanpeter02/09/04 07:24 AM
.*Re: Why don't you answer my posts?  NoControl02/09/04 09:38 AM
.*Re: Why don't you answer my posts?  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 11:36 AM
.*Are You Answering My Post?  EJSundayModerator02/09/04 08:49 AM
.*Re: what *is* he?  jabow02/07/04 11:00 PM
.*Re: Probably not, unless...  NoControl02/08/04 08:12 PM
.*Re: Oh Really?  dice02/07/04 02:41 PM
.*Hits Schmitz  pablopicasso02/07/04 02:52 PM
.*Re: Hits Schmitz  diamondogz7402/09/04 08:07 AM
.*In The Next World  poorsoul02/07/04 00:10 AM
.*Re: Hits schmits  CAwesome02/05/04 08:40 PM
.*Why? Why?  poorsoul02/05/04 11:01 PM
.*Re: Why? Why?  CAwesome02/06/04 03:44 PM
.*Re: Why? Why?  poorsoul02/06/04 11:57 PM
.*Boring for who?  pablopicasso02/06/04 03:40 AM
.*Mediocrity For All  poorsoul02/06/04 11:53 PM
.*Re: Hits schmits  dice02/05/04 08:13 PM
.*Can't Hit This  poorsoul02/01/04 01:14 AM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  NoControl01/30/04 00:03 AM
.*Putting Out Fire With Gasoline  EJSundayModerator01/27/04 06:37 AM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  Dara01/23/04 09:46 AM
.*Re: Painting yourself into a corner  dice01/23/04 08:00 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  diamondogz7401/22/04 08:01 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Claude01/21/04 04:19 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  pablopicasso01/21/04 04:00 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  Emil01/22/04 04:06 AM
.*knock it off  Emil01/21/04 05:19 PM
.*Sound revisionism  Dara01/20/04 06:45 AM
.*Re: Sound revisionism  SysiyoModerator01/20/04 03:20 PM
.*too bad he didn't do it in Helsinki then  Emil01/21/04 09:24 AM
.*Not A Chart Show  EJSundayModerator01/20/04 07:49 AM
.*Re: Not A Chart Show  gus_01/20/04 09:29 AM
.*Re: Not A Chart Show  gus_01/20/04 09:50 AM
.*Re: Not A Chart Show  eraserhead01/20/04 09:49 AM
.*Minstrel In The Gallery  EJSundayModerator01/20/04 10:54 AM
.*Not Defying  Si_rocks01/20/04 09:54 AM
.*Re: Sound revisionism  eraserhead01/20/04 07:18 AM
.*Re: Sound revisionism  Dara01/21/04 05:59 AM
.*here's my theory  eraserhead01/21/04 10:06 AM
.*I Am Too Old For Retro  EJSundayModerator01/21/04 11:05 AM
.*Re: I Am Too Old For Retro  Schenk01/21/04 12:36 PM
.*Two In One - But Still There Are Differences  EJSundayModerator01/22/04 05:41 AM
.*You guys are so old!  eraserhead01/21/04 12:14 PM
.*Re: You guys are so old!  Dara01/21/04 01:28 PM
.*Re: here's my theory  Dara01/21/04 10:26 AM
.*Standards And Changes  EJSundayModerator01/21/04 07:00 AM
.*Re: Standards And Changes  Si_rocks01/21/04 08:39 AM
.*Miffled  poorsoul01/22/04 00:18 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  SysiyoModerator01/20/04 04:12 AM
.*Good post Sysiyo  eraserhead01/20/04 06:17 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  CAwesome01/19/04 08:59 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  dice01/20/04 01:32 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  SoulLoveChild01/20/04 06:22 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  dice01/20/04 07:20 PM
.*dice didn't defy expectations either  SoulLoveChild01/21/04 01:47 AM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  jabow01/20/04 07:27 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  pablopicasso01/20/04 06:58 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  tv eye01/19/04 11:25 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  bowiefanpeter01/19/04 09:22 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  dukewhite01/19/04 08:19 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  dice01/19/04 08:12 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  diamondogz7401/19/04 08:02 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  tragicyouth01/19/04 07:51 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality T  HelenaOfGale01/19/04 04:22 PM
.*Why do you say that  Emil01/19/04 04:19 PM
.*Why do I say what?  eraserhead01/19/04 04:54 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Beltene01/19/04 03:52 PM
.*Re: Is Bowie defying expectations with A Reality Tour?  Jubany01/19/04 04:10 PM
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