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Adam Administrator
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04/09/04 07:03 AM
Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20 [re: bowiefanpeter]  

In reply to:

I can only keep on thinking one thing during this entire thread.
Why is the LOW album never mentioned outside the Bowie legend?
People here call it the greatest album of the 20th century. Looking at it closer, outside David articles, and being namechecked a couple time by Trent, I don't think I have ever seen it once mentioned as being an independantly strong piece of music. It's not even considered amongst Eno's creme de la creme of albums he's worked on.

Maybe people still have to come around to the album, or they never think Bowie could be a serious composer.

I, personally, love this album. Just what am I missing?


Peter, I think you'll find that Low has become very respected outside of the Bowie legend. It is not yet at the status of Pet Sounds or Revolver but I believe that it is generally on the rise.

According to the latest placings on the Acclaimed Music List, Low is now placed as the 89th greatest album ever made. I have drawn reference to this list in the past and I know it is not the be all and end all but it does try to compile as many critical listings as possible. In fact, here are the accolades for Low (which incidentally fairs better than any album Zappa ever released):

* New Musical Express (UK) - Albums of the Year 27

* Sounds (UK) - Albums of the Year 15

* Dave Marsh & Kevin Stein (USA) - The 40 Best of Album Chartmakers by Year (1981) 7

* Schlager (Sweden) - The 30 Best Albums of All Time (1984) 22

* New Musical Express (UK) - All Times Top 100 Albums (1985) 15

* Sounds (UK) - The 100 Best Albums of All Time (1986) 35

* Pure Pop (Mexico) - The Best Albums of All Time (1993) 56

* New Musical Express (UK) - All Times Top 100 Albums + Top 50 by Decade (1993) 67

* Pop (Sweden) - The World's 100 Best Albums + 300 Complements (1994) 63

* BigO (Singapore) - The 100 Best Albums from 1975 to 1995 (1995) 24

* Alternative Melbourne (Australia) - The Top 100 Rock/Pop Albums (1996) 57

* Guardian (UK) - The 100 Best Albums Ever (1997) 62

* Q (UK) - The 50 Best Albums of the 70s (1998) 30

* Panorama (Norway) - The 30 Best Albums of the Year 1970-98 (1999) 3

* David Kleijwegt (Netherlands) - Top 100 Albums of All Time (1999) 23

* Spex (Germany) - The 100 Albums of the Century (1999) 29

* Showbizz (Brazil) - 100 CDs of All Time (1999) 2

* Q (UK) - The 100 Greatest British Albums Ever (2000) 14

* The Review, University of Delaware (USA) - 100 Greatest Albums of All Time (2001) 48

* Rolling Stone (USA) - The 500 Greatest Albums of All Time (2003) 249

* New Musical Express (UK) - Top 100 Albums of All Time (2003) 26

* Vox (UK) - 100 Records that Shook the World (1991) No Order

* New Musical Express (UK) - 40 Records That Captured the Moment 1952-91 (1992) No Order

* Rolling Stone (USA) - The Essential 200 Rock Records (1997) No Order

* Rock & Folk (France) - The Best Albums from 1963 to 1999 (1999) No Order

* Elvis Costello - 500 Albums You Need (2000) No Order

* Stuart Maconie's Critical List on BBC Radio 2 (UK) - One Album Added Each Week No Order

* Blender (USA) - 500 CDs You Must Own Before You Die (2003) No Order

* Mojo (UK) - The Mojo Collection, Third Edition (2003) No Order

* Robert Christgau (USA) - Consumer Guide Album Grade B+

* Rolling Stone Album Guide, Ratings 1-5 Stars (USA, 1992) 3.5 Stars

* MusicHound Rock and R&B (USA) - Album Ratings 0-5 Bones (1998-99) 4 Bones

* Paul Roland (UK) - CD Guide to Pop & Rock, Album Ratings 1-5 Stars (2001) 3 Stars

* All Music Guide (USA) - Album Ratings 1-5 Stars 5 Stars

* Martin C. Strong (UK) - The Great Rock Discography 6th Edition, Ratings 1-10 10

* Virgin Encyclopedia of Popular Music (UK) - Album Ratings 1-5 Stars (2002) 4 Stars

Incidentally, Bowie currently has no less than 5 albums in the top 200. No other artist in recorded music history has more than him and both Dylan and The Beatles are equal on 5. Of those albums: Ziggy Stardust comes in at #15 - one of the highest recent rankings I've ever seen for it - in fact if you look at all of the albums above it, they are the 'big guns' of rock n roll. Hunky Dory is at 54, Low at 89. Heroes at 185 and Station to Station at 198.


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*LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  AdamAdministrator03/19/04 02:32 AM
.*Well, on my list, it'd be pretty LOW  twister09/15/04 03:29 PM
.*Love to say Da Da  Chichikov03/21/04 06:47 PM
.*Get Ready to Smile  Marquis03/21/04 08:07 PM
.*The Berlin era was a musical renaissance  stevetobias03/21/04 12:13 PM
.*Re: The Berlin era was a musical renaissance  bowiefanpeter03/21/04 01:19 PM
.*Anyway, enough of that  GodlessWonder03/21/04 01:26 PM
.*Guest  poorsoul03/21/04 08:05 PM
.*Re: Guest  The_Omen04/12/04 01:48 AM
.*Weep  poorsoul04/12/04 03:22 AM
.*Re: Weep  pablopicasso04/12/04 05:40 AM
.*Philo  poorsoul04/13/04 02:49 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  diamondogz7403/21/04 06:52 AM
.*I say jump!  EuropeanCanon03/21/04 09:01 AM
.*Re: I say jump!  diamondogz7403/21/04 09:36 AM
.*Re: I say jump!  kipt03/21/04 10:46 AM
.*Re: I say jump!  diamondogz7403/21/04 02:58 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  bowiefanpeter03/20/04 06:16 AM
..Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  AdamAdministrator04/09/04 07:03 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  forgetthatim5009/11/04 11:02 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  pablopicasso04/09/04 07:08 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  NoControl04/09/04 06:25 PM
.*Elbox  poorsoul04/11/04 02:37 AM
.*Re: Elbox  Grey_Nihilist04/11/04 11:54 AM
.*Re: Elbox  bowiefanpeter04/11/04 04:28 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  pablopicasso04/09/04 06:35 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  bowiefanpeter04/09/04 07:17 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  NoControl04/09/04 06:33 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  NoControl03/20/04 00:18 AM
.*What a fucking twat...  JonnyManic04/07/04 11:20 PM
.*Re: This is TOO Easy...  NoControl04/08/04 01:03 AM
.*Re: This is TOO Easy...  Diamond_Dave09/12/04 07:56 AM
.*This is even easier!  Marquis09/12/04 05:06 PM
.*Re: This is even easier!  Diamond_Dave09/15/04 07:44 AM
.*Thank Your Lucky Oops!  Marquis09/15/04 11:54 AM
.*2 + 2 = 5  poorsoul09/13/04 07:16 AM
.*sterilise this man and his family. fast  JonnyManic04/08/04 04:11 PM
.*Re: sterilise this man and his family. fast  NoControl04/08/04 09:15 PM
.*it's like talking to Robbie The Robot on crack  JonnyManic04/08/04 09:56 PM
.*Re: it's like talking to Robbie The Robot on crack  NoControl04/08/04 10:31 PM
.*stuck in a loop  JonnyManic04/09/04 04:17 PM
.*Re: stuck in a loop  NoControl04/09/04 06:43 PM
.*Re: stuck in a loop  pablopicasso04/09/04 06:56 PM
.*zzz  JonnyManic04/09/04 06:53 PM
.*Re: zzz  NoControl04/09/04 07:16 PM
.*bad doggy  JonnyManic04/09/04 07:38 PM
.*Re:  NoControl04/10/04 07:54 PM
.*I bet you dribble when you smile...  JonnyManic04/11/04 04:49 PM
.*Re:  Grey_Nihilist04/10/04 08:33 PM
.*Buttinsky  ohramonaModerator04/10/04 09:07 PM
.*Prawn of Satan  Marquis04/10/04 09:11 PM
.*Picky picky picky  ohramonaModerator04/10/04 09:14 PM
.*Re: Picky picky picky  CAwesome04/11/04 01:15 AM
.*Your Zappa Hard-on Knows No Bounds  Marquis04/10/04 08:05 PM
.*Re: it's like talking to Robbie The Robot on crack  RabbitFighter04/08/04 10:57 PM
.*Re: it's like talking to Robbie The Robot on crack  CAwesome04/08/04 10:42 PM
.*Re: it's like talking to Robbie The Robot on crack  NoControl04/08/04 11:05 PM
.*Yeah, well Bowie invented the fax machine!  Marquis04/08/04 11:18 AM
.*Re: Yeah, well Bowie invented the fax machine!  Cassiel04/08/04 12:11 PM
.*Re: Yeah, well Bowie invented the fax machine!  pablopicasso04/08/04 12:32 PM
.*What I want to know is, who woke him up again!!!  Cassiel04/08/04 12:39 PM
.*Re: What I want to know is, who woke him up again!!!  pablopicasso04/08/04 12:44 PM
.*Always On the Ball  Marquis04/08/04 12:49 PM
.*OMD!  SysiyoModerator04/08/04 01:01 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  AdamAdministrator03/20/04 00:38 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  NoControl03/20/04 00:55 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  AdamAdministrator03/20/04 01:11 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  NoControl03/20/04 01:15 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  AdamAdministrator03/20/04 01:48 AM
.*Having Been There  EJSundayModerator03/22/04 04:28 AM
.*Re: Having Been There  NoControl03/22/04 11:24 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  NoControl03/20/04 02:21 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  AdamAdministrator03/20/04 02:37 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  NoControl03/20/04 03:04 AM
.*The Problem With Zappa  Marquis03/20/04 02:45 PM
.*Monster  poorsoul03/20/04 10:31 PM
.*Give People What They Want in Lethal Doses  Marquis03/20/04 11:23 PM
.*Re: Give People What They Want in Lethal Doses  RabbitFighter03/21/04 06:43 AM
.*Re: Give People What They Want in Lethal Doses  NoControl03/22/04 00:15 AM
.*Always crashing in the same car  RabbitFighter03/22/04 10:05 AM
.*Re: Give People What They Want in Lethal Doses  NoControl03/21/04 00:27 AM
.*Manic  poorsoul03/21/04 08:09 PM
.*Re: Manic  NoControl03/22/04 00:38 AM
.*Re: Manic  diamondogz7403/22/04 06:47 AM
.*Re: Manic  Nature_Boy03/22/04 07:14 AM
.*Re: Manic  diamondogz7403/23/04 06:28 AM
.*>  Shyster03/22/04 05:34 AM
.*Re: >  NoControl03/22/04 11:25 PM
.*Lend  poorsoul03/22/04 03:08 AM
.*Re: Lend  NoControl03/22/04 11:34 PM
.*Shelter  poorsoul03/22/04 11:39 PM
.*Re: Shelter  NoControl03/22/04 11:43 PM
.*I am a robot, do what I say.  Marquis03/23/04 03:04 AM
.*Re: I am a robot, do what I say.  NoControl03/23/04 03:41 AM
.*Baby you just keep me coming back  Marquis03/23/04 11:45 AM
.*Re: Baby you just keep me coming back  NoControl03/24/04 01:31 AM
.*Re: Baby you just keep me coming back  Cassiel03/24/04 02:47 PM
.*Re: Baby you just keep me coming back  NoControl03/24/04 06:08 PM
.*Ask Dr. Stupid  Marquis03/24/04 11:15 AM
.*Re: Broken Hearts Are For Assholes  NoControl03/24/04 06:08 PM
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.*Re: The Intensive Care Contingent  NoControl03/25/04 07:05 AM
.*There can Be Only One  EJSundayModerator03/25/04 07:30 AM
.*Re: A+  NoControl03/25/04 07:41 AM
.*Re: A+  SysiyoModerator03/25/04 07:59 AM
.*Hear hear, well spoken Marquis!  SysiyoModerator03/21/04 05:18 PM
.*Re: Hear hear, well spoken Marquis!  NoControl03/22/04 00:17 AM
.*And the finnish alphabet has 29 letters.  SysiyoModerator03/22/04 02:05 PM
.*Re: And the finnish alphabet has 29 letters.  NoControl03/22/04 11:27 PM
.*Re: Give People What They Want in Lethal Doses  pablopicasso03/21/04 02:20 AM
.*Re: Give People What They Want in Lethal Doses  NoControl03/22/04 00:13 AM
.*I love you but i've chosen darkness  Marquis03/21/04 02:13 AM
.*Re: I love you but i've chosen darkness  NoControl03/22/04 00:12 AM
.*Are you speaking?  Marquis03/22/04 01:10 AM
.*Re: Are you speaking?  NoControl03/22/04 11:40 PM
.*Blessing  poorsoul03/23/04 00:10 AM
.*Re: Blessing  NoControl03/23/04 00:41 AM
.*Re: The Problem With Zappa  NoControl03/20/04 07:55 PM
.*Re: The Problem With Zappa  HotJareth03/20/04 08:13 PM
.*Re: The Problem With Ignorance  NoControl03/20/04 09:19 PM
.*Re: The Problem With Ignorance  HotJareth03/20/04 09:22 PM
.*Re: The Problem With Ignorance  NoControl03/20/04 09:25 PM
.*Re: The Problem With Ignorance  HotJareth03/20/04 09:36 PM
.*Re: The Problem With Ignorance  NoControl03/20/04 09:38 PM
.*Re: The Problem With Ignorance  HotJareth03/20/04 09:45 PM
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.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  th0mas03/20/04 07:41 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  SysiyoModerator03/20/04 02:34 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  pablopicasso03/20/04 04:42 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  CAwesome03/20/04 05:08 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  pablopicasso03/20/04 05:21 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20  Earthling on Fire03/20/04 03:00 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  Strawman03/19/04 11:09 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  bowiefanpeter03/19/04 09:01 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  Earthling on Fire03/19/04 07:17 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  SysiyoModerator03/19/04 06:19 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  EJSundayModerator03/19/04 09:17 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  SysiyoModerator03/19/04 04:31 PM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  eraserhead03/19/04 11:22 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  tonyinsf03/19/04 11:58 PM
.*Kraftwerk  AdamAdministrator03/19/04 06:38 AM
.*Popularity's no contest  White Prism03/19/04 04:05 AM
.*Metal Dung  AdamAdministrator03/19/04 04:25 AM
.*Invocation & Ritual Dance Of The Young Pumpkin  White Prism03/19/04 07:17 AM
.*What with our Culture and our charm and our brains  White Prism03/23/04 04:26 PM
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.*Keh ?  xray_yak03/19/04 03:07 PM
.*A Lingering Lapse Of Agression  EJSundayModerator03/22/04 08:06 AM
.*Heck  poorsoul03/20/04 00:36 AM
.*Re: Invocation & Ritual Dance Of The Young Pumpkin  RabbitFighter03/19/04 12:48 PM
.*Re: Invocation & Ritual Dance Of The Young Pumpkin  AdamAdministrator03/19/04 07:33 AM
.*Re: Invocation & Ritual Dance Of The Young Pumpkin  Earthling on Fire03/19/04 11:08 AM
.*Re: Invocation & Ritual Dance Of The Young Pumpkin  Frank_Solo03/19/04 08:34 AM
.*Re: Kid A Dung  Emil03/19/04 07:01 AM
.*Re: LOW: Most Experimental Popular Album of the 20thC?  TheYoungDude03/19/04 03:28 AM
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