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White Prism
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04/30/04 04:27 PM
Riley's got a grammar complex [re: riley]  

In reply to:

but the 'chosen people' thing is consistant with all [most?] old testimant religions.. therefore there are groups of people who are not chosen people.. if they get into heaven as well what do jews get out of being the chosen people? is it a 'the meek will inherit the earth' thing? do they get first dibs on the pool table when they get to heaven?


I dunno, but there does seem to be an inconsistency with being a chosen people yet not seeing themselves better than other people. What I had in mind when I wrote that last post was ZM’s comment:

It never means that they are better than any other people, although some Jews take it this way. But hey, there are assholes in every faith.

Having since read ZM’s earlier comments about Jewish persecution and the Torah, I can only assume that the reason why Jews were chosen was that they were believed to be non-aggressive, peaceful role-models to be aspired to by other races. This supposed peacefulness goes someway to answering Starlite’s point; it’s more ‘turn the other cheek’ than fighting force with force. My own preferred reading is that the genesis of the Torah is not supposed to be entrenched in factual detail of actual persecution (so don’t bring Hitler into this), but rather a moral or example to be learned. On the other hand, I despise ideas of nationhood and religion.

In reply to:

'Re: White man's got a God complex' thats a very predictable biggoted assumption. .. i just have general revulsion to the old testimant.


If I were to just sift through your abominable spelling . . . the phrase ‘white man’s got a God complex’ is actually a Last Poets’ song. Bowie likes the Last Poets.

Weave a circle round him thrice,
And close your eyes with holy dread



 
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*Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   pianocraft04/25/04 07:20 AM
.*The truth in black and white (among other colors)  strangeDivine05/04/04 09:06 PM
.*Re: The truth in black and white (among other colors)  RabbitFighter05/05/04 04:48 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   streetPOET05/01/04 07:28 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   AnnLanders04/30/04 03:28 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   diamondogz7405/01/04 07:40 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   zimmo04/29/04 10:51 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   GodlessWonder04/29/04 11:23 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   diamondogz7404/29/04 01:04 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   riley04/29/04 01:53 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   diamondogz7404/30/04 07:59 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   zigbot04/26/04 04:00 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   tonyinsf04/28/04 02:39 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   pianocraft04/26/04 08:28 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   zigbot04/26/04 09:07 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   Starlite04/26/04 09:20 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   zigbot04/26/04 09:56 PM
.*Refined tastes  strangeDivine04/26/04 04:22 PM
.*Re: Refined tastes  zigbot04/26/04 08:19 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   hRtsfLtyleSn5604/26/04 03:49 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   bippity04/26/04 01:51 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   MichelleAlder04/25/04 07:04 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   Max_M04/25/04 07:22 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   Coan_teen04/25/04 07:46 PM
.*The Father's kingdom is within you and without  strangeDivine04/25/04 03:38 PM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  riley04/26/04 01:01 AM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  ulfdub04/26/04 03:34 AM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  riley04/26/04 08:40 AM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  ulfdub04/28/04 05:14 AM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  riley04/28/04 07:55 AM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  ZiggyMercury04/28/04 10:03 PM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  zigbot04/28/04 10:14 PM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  ZiggyMercury04/28/04 11:01 PM
.*Snow  poorsoul04/29/04 03:53 AM
.*Re: Snow  ZiggyMercury04/30/04 01:26 AM
.*Re: Snow  ZiggyMercury04/29/04 04:24 AM
.*February  poorsoul04/30/04 02:18 AM
.*Re: February  ZiggyMercury04/30/04 02:37 AM
.*Relate  poorsoul04/30/04 03:27 AM
.*Re: Relate  ZiggyMercury04/30/04 05:17 AM
.*Re: Relate  Starlite04/30/04 06:51 AM
.*Re: Relate  ZiggyMercury04/30/04 02:37 PM
.*Re: Snow  mwfte04/29/04 04:41 AM
.*Re: Snow  ZiggyMercury04/29/04 05:13 AM
.*Re: Snow  riley04/29/04 12:24 PM
.*Re: Snow  ZiggyMercury04/29/04 06:14 PM
.*Re: Snow  riley04/30/04 10:42 AM
.*Re: Snow  ZiggyMercury04/30/04 02:44 PM
.*Re: Snow  riley04/30/04 03:06 PM
.*Re: Snow  ZiggyMercury04/30/04 04:17 PM
.*Re: Snow  riley05/01/04 05:57 AM
.*Once  poorsoul05/01/04 05:55 AM
.*Re: Once  ZiggyMercury05/01/04 05:13 PM
.*Re: Once  Tin05/01/04 07:31 AM
.*Re: Once  GodlessWonder05/01/04 10:30 AM
.*Pisces  poorsoul05/02/04 05:47 AM
.*Re: Once  riley05/01/04 06:05 AM
.*Again  poorsoul05/02/04 05:32 AM
.*Re: Again  riley05/02/04 11:33 AM
.*Liver  poorsoul05/03/04 05:17 AM
.*White man's got a God complex  White Prism04/30/04 03:25 PM
.*Re: White man's got a God complex  riley04/30/04 03:56 PM
..Riley's got a grammar complex  White Prism04/30/04 04:27 PM
.*Re: Riley's got a grammar complex  riley05/01/04 05:46 AM
.*Kittens!  ZiggyMercury05/01/04 04:33 AM
.*Re: Kittens!  riley05/01/04 06:44 AM
.*Re: Kittens!  ZiggyMercury05/01/04 05:07 PM
.*Pointless arguments  pablopicasso05/01/04 05:59 AM
.*Pointlessfully inclined  strangeDivine05/01/04 07:25 PM
.*Re: Pointless arguments  ZiggyMercury05/01/04 05:10 PM
.*Re: Pointless arguments  Dara05/04/04 08:15 AM
.*Re: Pointless arguments  riley05/04/04 08:35 AM
.*Re: Pointless arguments  Dara05/04/04 08:38 AM
.*Re: Pointless arguments  Dan Dare05/01/04 06:59 PM
.*Re: Riley's got a grammar complex  zigbot04/30/04 05:16 PM
.*Re: Snow  ZiggyMercury04/29/04 06:21 PM
.*Re: Snow  RabbitFighter04/29/04 06:23 PM
.*Re: Snow  ZiggyMercury04/29/04 05:11 AM
.*Questions  strangeDivine04/29/04 02:42 PM
.*Re: Questions  riley04/29/04 02:51 PM
.*Re: Questions  strangeDivine04/29/04 03:37 PM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  dukewhite04/29/04 01:31 AM
.*JEWS!  ZiggyMercury04/29/04 03:20 AM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  zigbot04/29/04 00:19 AM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  dukewhite04/25/04 10:29 PM
.*Re: The Father's kingdom is within you and without  strangeDivine04/26/04 01:48 PM
.*Iran  poorsoul04/26/04 06:49 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   tonyinsf04/25/04 12:15 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   Coco8205/01/04 02:59 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   riley04/25/04 12:29 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   RabbitFighter04/25/04 12:37 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   riley04/25/04 12:50 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   RabbitFighter04/25/04 12:18 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   thinwhiteme04/25/04 11:56 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   Odinsdracodottir05/04/04 03:11 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   pianocraft05/04/04 04:54 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   RabbitFighter05/04/04 03:18 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   Odinsdracodottir05/04/04 04:14 PM
.*Told  poorsoul04/26/04 06:35 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   GodlessWonder04/25/04 08:53 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   RabbitFighter04/25/04 09:32 AM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   tonyinsf04/25/04 12:08 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   WoodJackson0304/25/04 09:53 AM
.*Station to Station Part II  AdamAdministrator04/25/04 07:46 AM
.*Imagination  poorsoul04/26/04 06:32 AM
.*Re: Station to Station Part II  RabbitFighter04/25/04 08:29 AM
.*Re: Station to Station Part II  Coan_teen04/29/04 04:40 PM
.*Re: Station to Station Part II  RabbitFighter04/29/04 04:54 PM
.*Re: Station to Station Part II  zigbot04/29/04 05:32 PM
.*Re: Station to Station Part II  RabbitFighter04/29/04 05:44 PM
.*Re: Station to Station Part II  diamondogz7404/26/04 03:26 PM
.*Re: Station to Station Part II  GodlessWonder04/26/04 04:29 PM
.*Translucent  poorsoul04/27/04 01:20 AM
.*Re: Translucent  diamondogz7404/29/04 08:46 AM
.*Re: Translucent  Si_rocks04/27/04 07:11 AM
.*Re: Translucent  diamondogz7404/29/04 08:43 AM
.*Pay now, die later  Dara04/27/04 08:22 AM
.*Re: Pay now, die later  Si_rocks04/27/04 10:14 AM
.*DAF  poorsoul04/28/04 02:18 AM
.*Re: Station to Station Part II  Coan_teen04/25/04 03:22 PM
.*Re: Station to Station Part II  RabbitFighter04/25/04 03:32 PM
.*Re: Bowie, Ellen, and the Devil   riley04/25/04 07:30 AM
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