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04/20/04 12:16 PM
Iggy, Danny, Davey & Tony [re: ziggfried]  

"I realized The Stooges couldn't do anything more in Detroit, we'd gone as far as a Detroit band as we could, got as far as we'd gotten and disbanded. If we came back and reassembled something in Detroit and worked from that base, people wouldn't stay behind it. Because our momentum would've been diminished. I realized that I was gonna have to take this national or, if possible, international. That was where Tony DeFries came in. While I was in New York on Steve Paul's dime, sleeping on Danny Fields' banquette, this guy DeFries came to town with Bowie looking to co-opt the American avant-garde. I was an interesting candidate to join that circus to them.

Bowie knew about me and I think it was just a happy coincidence that I just happened to be in town, or a freak coincidence! I just happened to be in town, and Fields just happened to be stationed in his usual pit position at Max's Kansas City's backroom, where Bowie and his team were making the scene. Fields called me and said, 'Get down here, you can do yourself some good!' I said, 'Aw, I'm watching Mr. Smith Goes to Washington and Jimmy Stewart is so sincere, I can't tear myself away,' I was practically in tears over Jimmy Stewart fighting these corrupt bastards and all that, so I didn't go down. So Fields called me about an hour and a half later, 'Get down here, goddamn it!' I said, 'When the movie's over!' So I waited til the movie was over and it was late but they were still down there.

We talked and I could tell right away that Bowie and DeFries were nutters. Steve was a carney, he'd started his career selling blackhead removing pencils through the back pages of Popular Mechanics, so he was still pretty much meat-and-potatoes, 'Let's get some fast bucks here,' a carney. But Bowie and DeFries were British music hall, pure vaudeville. I've always had a good sense of who's going somewhere and a good sense of circus, and I could just see there was a circus in town -- 'Join!' That was my immediate instinct. I thought this could be good for me right off.

David diplomatically suggested, 'Well, you know what we could do Iggy, what would be a great idea, there's a wonderful band in England, World War 3 with Edgar Broughton, have you heard of them? They're very heavy in England and they could be a wonderful backup band for you.' Bowie and DeFries had a very pop mentality the way they did things, 'You'll have a band, we could have this done in a half- hour!' Of course, guess who'd write the song -- not me!

But to give them their due, Bowie, DeFries, all the MainMan management people he later hired here, all these out-of-work actors -- these people had a real appreciation for the arts. It went very deep, and still does with Bowie. It's his great strength that he knows how to spot something that's not related to mainstream entertainment, bring it over to his camp where he can relate to it in some way, put his name on it and get involved, work with it and then send it out to a bigger public. It's what he does really well. But he couldn't do that well if he didn't really have an eye and an ear for this stuff. And DeFries is the same way. It's no accident he signed Bowie, then me, then later Mellencamp. When I'd talk to DeFries and tell him my ideals and my mad theories about life and theatre and music, he would listen. He had an affection for that and tried to respect it.

But Bowie knew my records and he was intelligent and friendly and decent and smart, and I could see it and I thought, 'This is pretty cool.' I could talk to this guy. And DeFries I thought was a character, I thought people will go for this guy, he had a big cigar and a big pointed nose and a great big Afro and a smug look on his face and an English accent and a big fur coat and a belly! And to the people who were running the American industry it just spelled 'Hot Manager!' He had an image and it would work, it would sell.

Iggy Pop, Raw Power liner notes, 1997

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*Iggy Pop  ziggfried03/25/04 10:55 AM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  ziggfried02/14/07 06:57 AM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  ziggfried02/15/07 04:42 AM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  ziggfried02/18/07 02:25 AM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  ziggfried02/19/07 07:58 AM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  ziggfried02/19/07 09:02 AM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  ziggfried02/22/07 10:05 PM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  ziggfried08/30/07 05:37 AM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  EuropeanCanon04/18/10 07:04 AM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  globule206/17/09 10:38 AM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  ziggfried07/09/09 04:30 AM
.*Re: Iggy Pop  EuropeanCanon03/25/07 09:17 AM
.*He screams and he bawls  ziggfried09/25/04 04:22 AM
.*Isn't it wild...  ziggfried09/25/04 04:24 AM
.*Re: Isn't it wild...  ziggfried02/14/07 07:13 AM
.*Dum Dum Dave  ziggfried09/25/04 04:26 AM
.*Dum Dum Dave Redux  ziggfried09/25/04 04:28 AM
.*Iggy assesses The Idiot  ziggfried09/25/04 04:30 AM
.*Here comes my chinese rug...  ziggfried09/25/04 04:41 AM
.*Iggy's competitiveness  ziggfried09/25/04 04:44 AM
.*Bowie comes clean about raping "Tonight"  ziggfried09/25/04 04:47 AM
.*Borneo!  ziggfried09/25/04 04:49 AM
.*Foretelling NLMD!  ziggfried09/25/04 04:51 AM
.*Will they or won't they...?  ziggfried09/26/04 11:07 AM
.*And I thought Street Theatre was crap...  ziggfried09/27/04 09:10 AM
.*Hmmm, I must have missed this movie...  ziggfried09/28/04 08:46 AM
.*Funtime's Over  ziggfried09/28/04 12:11 PM
.*All aboard for Friendtime  ziggfried10/26/04 11:13 AM
.*Foreshadowing "Blah-Blah-Blah"  ziggfried11/04/04 10:26 AM
.*Origin of Big Boys  ziggfried11/04/04 10:27 AM
.*See? NLMD was ADVENTUROUS!  ziggfried11/04/04 10:29 AM
.*Soldiering on  ziggfried07/29/05 01:58 PM
.*Rocky Jim  ziggfried07/31/05 09:37 PM
.*Piano Dude  ziggfried07/31/05 09:39 PM
.*Jimmy  ziggfried07/31/05 09:41 PM
.*Don't Believe The Truth  ziggfried08/13/05 01:55 PM
.*Wall The Young Dudes  ziggfried09/03/05 12:51 PM
.*Fishtime  ziggfried12/21/05 08:38 PM
.*Bowie on that remix...  ziggfried12/25/05 09:49 PM
.*Iggy & O'Boogie  ziggfried01/05/06 11:49 AM
.*Classic Iggy  ziggfried01/27/06 06:13 AM
.*Iggy & Democracy  ziggfried01/29/06 04:01 AM
.*Re:  ziggfried03/21/06 11:53 PM
.*Re:  ziggfried03/21/06 11:59 PM
.*Re:  ziggfried04/09/06 07:32 AM
.*Dave on Jim  EuropeanCanon10/31/04 06:56 AM
.*Iggy & Krafty  ziggfried09/03/04 10:14 PM
.*Pop & Bop  ziggfried09/03/04 10:17 PM
.*Re: Pop & Bop  globule209/06/04 09:12 PM
.*Iggy on Bowie, #2  ziggfried03/25/04 10:59 AM
.*Re: Iggy on Bowie, #3  ziggfried03/25/04 11:06 AM
.*Bowie on Iggy, #1  ziggfried03/27/04 10:10 PM
.*Bowie on Iggy, #2  ziggfried03/27/04 10:17 PM
.*Bowie on Iggy, #3  ziggfried03/27/04 10:26 PM
.*Bowie on Iggy, #4  ziggfried03/27/04 10:29 PM
.*Re: Bowie on Iggy, #5  ziggfried03/27/04 10:36 PM
.*Bowie on Iggy, #6  ziggfried03/27/04 10:41 PM
.*Bowie on Iggy, #7  ziggfried03/31/04 12:06 PM
.*Bowie on Iggy, #8  ziggfried03/31/04 12:12 PM
.*Bowie on Iggy, #9  ziggfried03/31/04 12:17 PM
.*Iggy on Bowie again  ziggfried03/31/04 09:52 PM
.*The perils of going to a Bowie concert  ziggfried03/31/04 09:58 PM
.*Iggy's typical day in Berlin, Spring 1976  ziggfried03/31/04 10:05 PM
.*Iggy, Bowie & Al from "Quantum Leap"  ziggfried04/03/04 11:48 AM
.*Iggy when he was lonely  ziggfried04/03/04 11:54 AM
.*Iggy on Bowie as Producer  ziggfried04/03/04 12:03 PM
.*James Williamson & Bowie  ziggfried04/04/04 11:21 AM
.*Iggy, Bowie and The Origin Of Lust  ziggfried04/04/04 11:25 AM
.*Iggy, Bowie and Movies  ziggfried04/04/04 11:31 AM
.*Bowie, Iggy and Drugs  ziggfried04/04/04 11:34 AM
.*Bowie, Iggy and Raw Power  ziggfried04/08/04 12:01 PM
.*Davey & The Stooges  ziggfried04/20/04 12:08 PM
..Iggy, Danny, Davey & Tony  ziggfried04/20/04 12:16 PM
.*More Power  ziggfried04/20/04 12:21 PM
.*Bowie on Iggy  ziggfried05/05/04 11:38 AM
.*China Girl  ziggfried05/05/04 11:48 AM
.*Bowie discusses their differences  ziggfried05/05/04 11:57 AM
.*Iggy discusses their differences  ziggfried05/05/04 12:04 PM
.*Bowie & Iggy as lyricist  ziggfried05/05/04 12:19 PM
.*Iggy on Bowie, again  ziggfried05/05/04 12:32 PM
.*A bitch magnet?   white rabbit06/26/04 11:30 PM
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