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Teenage Wildlife Guestbook October 2000

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I shall be on my "toy" tonight, my trusty broomstick. I'll see you if you have the same dream.Or maybe you'll visit New York while you stay in bed?. Henbane the toy of the potato.Belladonna the plaything of the tomato.The day man got his first toy was the day he learnt to kill.
Miss Stubbs (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 31, 2000 at 17:49:52 (EST)
since appearing on stars in their eyes, march 2000 i,ve been busy doing appearances round the u.k. performing my tribute in the persona of "the serious moonlight era" whereever iv,e gigged e.g. music live festival,2000, film premmiere of jim carry,s latest, various summer haunts, the audiance is appreaciative but don,t seem to understand what it,s about. This website seems to tune to the Bowie fan, so if anyone can tell me where the bowie nights are,please let me know.
robstorm (robstorm@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP:
wales, uk - Tuesday, October 31, 2000 at 14:41:55 (EST)
I have to say that Bowie at the Beeb is bloody WONDERFUL! The bonus CD at the BBC Theatre, June 2000 is EXCELLENT. Helen, glad to see your name there. You go girl!!
canadian boy (Posted from IP:
Canada/west - Tuesday, October 31, 2000 at 12:01:54 (EST)
"Toy" is an amorous plaything at first endearing but soon discarded. An object greatly desired yet soon dispensible. In the song "Janine" Bowie confesses: "I've caught your wings for laughs; I'm not obliged to read you statements of the year, so take your glasses off and don't act so sincere." The insincerity/trickery of the philanderer who toys with his "love object" becomes conspicuous. In "DJ" Bowie describes the seducer with near perfect irony: "Time flies when you're HAVING FUN--break his heart, break her heart. The "Toy" whether a "mannequin with kill appeal" or a "barbie doll with a broken heart" is always re-place-able. And that's the catch! The new album "Toy" conjures up the theme of "ex-change-ability." Bowie's ability to replace/displace objects within the space-time matrix is well known. He is again re-cycle-ing old junk, pulling out treasures from the "trash heap," re-make-ing forgotten trinkets from the past...
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 31, 2000 at 10:29:01 (EST)
You know it's Halloween when you turn on the folkie station first thing and hear 'em playing "Scary Monsters."
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Tuesday, October 31, 2000 at 09:59:01 (EST)
First off, I'm a HUGE Bowie fan (my favorite artist, I'm also into Iggy,Eno,Roxy Music,Bauhaus,Pixies,Pulp,Beatles,Stones,Smog,VU,Prince,Nick Cave,JSBX,etc.). Secondly, I'm posting this message to promote a cd ($10 shipped) compilation album that my brother and I just released. It includes songs by artists that can't be found anywhere else. Artists who appear are Songs:Ohia, Glen Hansard, Julius Monk, Annika Bentley, At Right Angles, Tiger Saw, Jai Angish, Theath, Castor M, Galt, This Plutonian Shore, and Sufjan Stevens. Check out Theath.com for more info.
Christopher Heath (azieran@hotmail.com) (Posted from IP:
Connersville, IN USA - Tuesday, October 31, 2000 at 01:05:06 (EST)
Happy Birthdays to Patti and Zardoz too! Whoa...I know 2 people from both sides of the pond with bdays today! xoxox RaM
RaMOANa (ramoana@davidbowie.com) (Posted from IP:
Sunshine State, USA - Monday, October 30, 2000 at 22:10:38 (EST)
Kali (Posted from IP:
USA - Monday, October 30, 2000 at 17:30:12 (EST)
Rancell: I missed N'Sync. It must have been "classic". I did hear Billy Joel. He was not that great. Sheryl Crow was okay, but I did not recognize her at first, she looked different. However, I came in midstream when Marc Anthony was singing, and the camera was not on him. My husband and I were trying to guess who was singing. I thought it was Johnny Mathis, we could not recognize the voice. It was a fantastic voice, and then the camera was on him and we both said Marc Anthony! I did hear UP during one of the games.
ladystardust (ladystardust_98@yahoo.com) (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Monday, October 30, 2000 at 10:10:15 (EST)
Happy Fackin' Birthday Patti!!! xooxoxoxoxoxo and all that jive. k-m
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Monday, October 30, 2000 at 07:54:52 (EST)
Dear Patti - HAPPY BIRTHDAY!! Hope it's a wonderful one! Am I phirst??? :-) Love, Joanie
Ilsa (jsands@hereintown.net) (Posted from IP:
Phreezing Phrostbite Phalls, MD USA - Monday, October 30, 2000 at 07:20:13 (EST)
Hallo! Could anyone tell at what time, in Europe, is the Bowie chat on the 31st October? Thank you very much in advance :) Cheers,
Isabel (greenapple39@yahoo.com) (Posted from IP:
Lisboa, Portugal - Sunday, October 29, 2000 at 20:48:49 (EST)
hi friends long time since i made a comment but haveing read the jackles comment not his real name (BET IT SUITS HIM)part of davids appeal is the fact that he trys out new idears not to please fans but for his own personal fullfillment and if we like it that is a bonus if not he did his own thing .he is a leader and a person a lot of todays artists aspire to emulate.david has led his life the way he wanted not what his people told him ,he has not always been right but he is doin one hell of a job as he is back on form big style.and he is doing a big world tour next year i will be at as many as i can no two live shows are the same.good luck to you all and jackle know your stuff before you make comments........
hugo embleton black (e.black . co.uk.) (Posted from IP:
alnwick, USA - Sunday, October 29, 2000 at 18:08:57 (EST)
hello folks!!! how are u? i am jenna...from finland... i just got intrested about david bowie. i saw a dream about him and after it i started to listen to him. i haven't been a fan for a long time. actually i don't know just anything about david!!! i hope you guys e-mail me!!! i mean it would be wonderful to share our thoughts and everything... and i could learn more aboyt david and his music. please, e-mail me!!! i really want to hear from you SOON!!!
jenna (levoton_tuhkimo@yahoo.com) (Posted from IP:
lahti, finland - Sunday, October 29, 2000 at 10:26:52 (EST)
Message for driver email mrgrumpy@earthlink.net about your Bowie songbook!!!
Mark Heffernan (mrgrumpy@earthlink.net) (Posted from IP:
Upland, CA USA - Saturday, October 28, 2000 at 10:34:32 (EDT)
Ladystardust, they've been playing Bowie snippets fairly regularly during the playoffs at Shea. I didn't hear anything last night, but Tuesday they used Under Pressure, and during the NLCS they used UP and "Changes" when a pitching change was made. UP also made a similar appearance at Yankee Stadium during the ALCS. Bonnie has pointed out in her newsletter that the Wallflowers' version of "Heroes" has been heard at Yankee Stadium. At both stadiums, players can pick their "walk up" music, but none use Bowie that I know of. You'd think Bowie's huge Yankee connections would find him finding a way to get his music played more at Yankee Stadium, or even going to the games, which were filled with celebrities, as Fox documented. Or maybe sing the national anthem? I guess he wouldn't know the words. He couldn't have done worse than N'Sync on Tuesday, who provoked gales of boos and a whole lot of laughter. Sheryl Crow via TV was OK but not great. Last night, however, I have to admit that Marc Anthony was terrific. Excellent voice, everyone was very impressed, blowing away ancient Billy Joel and ancient-er Robert Merrill for Games 1-2. "I Need to Know," great single too. Plus, he's actually from NYC. Big points for that. :-) Oh yeah, the Jets continue to win late and continue to use "Lust for Life" a couple of times per game, including in the OT period on Monday, which was one that if you couldn't stay up for, you'll be seeing on Classic Sports for years to come. Absolutely unbelievable.
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Friday, October 27, 2000 at 17:25:46 (EDT)
ATTENTION NEW YORKERS: I just received notice at work that the World Series champion ticker tape parade in honor of the New York Yankees on Monday 10/30 will go through the "Canyon of Heroes" on Broadway (Wall Street Area). Does a certain Bowie song come to mind? I have a gut feeling this could be the theme of the parade. Also there is a Gridlock Alert for Monday.
ladystardust (ladystardust_98@yahoo.com) (Posted from IP:
NY, NY USA - Friday, October 27, 2000 at 16:41:40 (EDT)
more information about conventions?
robstorm (robstorm@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP:
Uk - Friday, October 27, 2000 at 14:55:01 (EDT)
Toy: It is adored, often blindly and excessively. It is something visible but without substance. Amorous Play, A Piece of Fun. Idle Amusement. Idol Worship.
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Friday, October 27, 2000 at 10:06:35 (EDT)
TallVenusian, I am trying desperately to block that ad because I find it unacceptable as well. The company I used to work with was bought by a bigger company and they imposed this new type of advertising unilaterally without informing me! Rest assured, these banners will be banned as soon as possible.
Evan Torrie (webmaster@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP:
Stanford, CA USA - Thursday, October 26, 2000 at 23:53:38 (EDT)
Well, I certainly don't hold anything against the webmaster for trying to make a few bucks off a site he obviously works very hard on but... The lotto ad that pops up when I click on a news headline is enough to make me throw my computer out the window.
TallVenusian (peppermintjack@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP:
VA USA - Thursday, October 26, 2000 at 18:35:15 (EDT)
Only 3 years to go until 'Bowie Day' Weymouth, in Dorset (I'd recommend it). Don't worry, more details will follow. In the mean time don't forget 'Bowie Night' at the Vicky Lodge, Portland, Friday 17th November 2000 (I haven't been before, but they tell me it's worth leaving the oxygen tent for).
Thin White Duck (Posted from IP:
Weymouth, England - Wednesday, October 25, 2000 at 17:32:00 (EDT)
your brain hurts like a warehouse,stacked with more male Mr (rather than Miss)information.They want pictures of your health wealth and happiness to pin on their wall to prick you at will. Left to males, the world will end up as it started with Adam on his own, lord of all the wreakage in front of him. The toy of the gods is chromosome 'Y',they have forgotten they made it and now females everywhere should stop playing and shout to the sky "can we have our ball back please mister?
Miss Stubbs (Posted from IP:
USA - Wednesday, October 25, 2000 at 14:52:36 (EDT)
Toy or Silly Boy--Poor Dunce, he never knew what hit him. "I am an absolute beginner--with nothing much to offer." The Sober Philistine, R. Stone, L. Blank, Halloween Jack, the liar, the harlequin. Icon Monsters: Princess In Stone, Grumpy Gnome. He was stone, and I was wax. The "small friends" and "the shallow man." Comical heroes, kings of oblivion--"Just you and your idol singing falsetto." Today's scrambled creatures: Baby Bankrupt, Baby Grace, Baby Universal. Threepenny Pierrot and poor little greenie. What kind of fool are you and I? Bullet-proof faces--You tacky thing, you put them on. The seedy young knights, the london boys, the ragged teddy bear. "Tattered remnants," and "Defecating ecstasy." The Toy offers amusement, incitement, intrigue. To have a name: "Dis-Grace," "Laughingstock," "Simple Man." The Toy as Art: A treating of the "lowly" with the feeling of the "sublime." The alien, the outsider, the stranger, the lodger--Dress my friends up just for show--see them as they really are...
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Wednesday, October 25, 2000 at 10:25:08 (EDT)
File this under "Bwhahahaha!": From Rolling Stone's Daily Newsletter... Anarchist (ed note: HUH?!) British band CHUMBAWAMBA have incorporated unauthorized samples of METALLICA, DR. DRE, MADONNA, EMINEM and the BEATLES into a new song, "Pass It Along (MP3 Mix)," which is available free at www.chumba.com. "It's not passing music around for free which is killing music," said singer DUNSTAN BRUCE. "No, it's the industry which is stifling creativity by only ever thinking in terms of dollars and pounds." And who said these guys suck? Okay, maybe they suck, but you gotta admit that is pretty damn funny. Oh and on politics, www.naderforprez.com looks to still be available.
KelMarSuperVixen (Posted from IP:
USA - Wednesday, October 25, 2000 at 08:32:44 (EDT)
I love being a part of this sight.
willowfaeirysprite (willowfaeirysprite@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP:
Connersville, IN USA - Tuesday, October 24, 2000 at 22:07:45 (EDT)
males marry what they see. females marry what they hear, but what about the smell? I smell a rat knowing that in the last hundred years males have manipulated pictures and sounds and made them in their own image. Guilty too are those 'fallen angel' females who have took the male's silver and done the same. Females may have forgot what their mothers and fathers said but are now moving up the scale of their seven senses. They no longer listen to the trickery of the noises their males make, but are waking up to (not only smelling the coffee) smelling the truth in their males, and so they should. They have seven senses and seven ways to live their life.
Miss Stubbs (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 24, 2000 at 17:13:59 (EDT)
Come and Buy My Toys: I saw boys, toys, electric irons, and tv's. I give my complete attention to a very good friend of mine--it's so demonic, so hologramic. Big screen dolls...mannequins with kill-appeal. Now he is a puppet-dancer...It ain't that barbie doll...
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 24, 2000 at 16:34:19 (EDT)
Happy Birthday Bonster!!! I hope that when I'm 99 I'll look as good as you! xoxoxoxo
Alys (alpalmer@ucalgary.ca) (Posted from IP:
Calgary, AB CANADA - Tuesday, October 24, 2000 at 00:23:02 (EDT)
tonight,matthew, i shall announce my alternative bowie tribute from space oddity to seven. Appeared march 2000,performing china girl.looking for a different chrismas party,New year 2001, I,m at your service........
rob storm (robertjhughes) (Posted from IP:
wales, uk - Monday, October 23, 2000 at 16:50:37 (EDT)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY Bonster!!!! Ya look AWESOME for 99! ;-)
Kali (Posted from IP:
USA - Monday, October 23, 2000 at 16:46:55 (EDT)
Happy birthday Bonster! Only 1 year to go till you hit the 3 figures huh? Or perhaps it just feels like it after running a Bowie mailing list? :-P
Evan Torrie (webmaster@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP:
Stanford, CA USA - Monday, October 23, 2000 at 13:25:44 (EDT)
Cool site. Oh, and Bowie at the Beeb is absolutely superb to anyone who hasn't got it. Well worth. For moments on the 3rd disc I thought I'd died and gone to heaven: "Fame" and "Cracked Actor" particularly. Blistering. Also, visit www.bewlaybros.homestead.com. PLEASE!
Will Horwood (starman@boogie.co.uk) (Posted from IP:
Southwold, UK - Sunday, October 22, 2000 at 15:29:10 (EDT)
After hearing Moonage Daydream on the Jonathon Ross BBC Radio 2 show yesterday, my ears had to go for a cold shower and a lie down! Fantastic!
Slightly Overweight White Duke (Posted from IP:
England - Sunday, October 22, 2000 at 12:12:19 (EDT)
Hi! Looking for some of your SCOTS out there. I'm visiting Edinburgh soon. Anyone know any good second hand shops where I can pick up Bowie stuff - CDs, maga, memorabilia etc. Thanks
Astronette (Posted from IP:
UK - Friday, October 20, 2000 at 08:55:02 (EDT)
Dara. Yes your welcome to,but unless DB becomes honorary female "Davinda Bowie".Your writings and teachings in the future,will be banished to the crypt of the library where they will only be able to be read quietly by the female elders.These writings should give the female elders the power to deal with hormonally in balanced younger females who have "battle fatigue" from living in a male dominated world. As KMSV pointed out "Toy Soldier" maybe the way forward, in which females (having no male role models) are assigned an "aggression automaton". A man size toy which they can beat with a saucepan, nag (with auto responses) and also receive a punishment slap to purge their sins.
Miss Stubbs (Posted from IP:
USA - Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 18:24:13 (EDT)
Happy Birthday Ramoana. You darling you.
BIGbruddah (BIGbruddah@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP:
Brussels, Belgium - Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 16:46:35 (EDT)
uh oh...i have been remiss in my birthday greetings. HAPPY BIRTHDAY REDNIK AND MOANER!!!! hope you both had a hellova good time! :-)
patti (pattibowie@home.com) (Posted from IP:
- Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 13:39:44 (EDT)
Happy (belated) Birthday MOANa!!!! xoxoxoxoxo
Alys (alpalmer@ucalgary.ca) (Posted from IP:
calgary, ab CANADA - Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 11:43:37 (EDT)
If there is a musical reason for the name "Toy," then I'll take a mad flyer and say that nearly 54-year-old Bowie is thinking back to the R&B he listened to almost exclusively way back then. While he was a struggling kid in 1965, the British invasion was interrupted--here and everywhere--by a girl group called The Toys, with a terrific catchy midtempo tune, "A Lovers Concerto." It knocked everything out of the way, going to number one all over the world. It's still iconic, showing up on NYC's golden oldies station, way up high, on the holiday best-of specials, and the group has reformed in recent years and has appeared occasionally. This song was huge while Bowie was writing the stuff that got him his first real record contract with Pye the next year. Some of the orchestrated stuff that came up soon after sounded like it could have been recorded in the same studio as Lovers Concerto. Same vein, different continents. Toy may wind up sounding more like "Young Americans" or "Black Tie White Noise" than we expected, and with hindsight, Nevada's Miracle Goodnight/Win call below may look like he was at the sessions.
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 10:44:14 (EDT)
Finally, crafty, subtle, and multi-talented women will be major collaborators in the creation of the next Two DB albums. Lisa Germano on the Toy album, and Annette Peacock, an inspiring and awesome singer/musician on the new Bowie/Visconti album. I am sure both of them will bring out the more subtle DB--the one found on such songs as Dreaming My Life, Miracle Goodnight, Win, We Shall Go To Town, Always Crashing...In fact the sad/wordless state Bowie achieved on Low/Heroes can be found in the music of both Germano and Peacock. I also think Bowie has a gift for "ballads" that rarely shows itself. Annette's free form style should work wonders on Bowie's muse. Germano's heavy-hearted approach to lyrics could re-awaken the vulnerable DB exhibited on such classics as Letter To Hermione, Word On A Wing, Can You Hear Me? We shall find out soon enough. Welcome into the fold Germano and Peacock!
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 09:49:27 (EDT)
The Toy was the "Second" of "Two." One of a Doublet or Couplet--hence the "Lover's Knot." The "Second One," (assumed flawed) of the "Yoke," was often cheapened and became the "Joke." The "Toy" became a "Casualty of Mimicry." Replicas emerged--Androids, Flesh-Automations, Artificial Intelligences, Living Machines, even "Mannequins with Kill-Appeal." Soon the "Toy Replicas" were bound, enslaved. The Toy became an adornment, an accessory, a superfluous trifle, a doll-idol, an idle doll, an empty token, a "Memorial of Victory" over the "Second One." And inevitably a Collector's Item. Yet the Toy was a clever double entendre, a Wise-Crack in the "Enigma of Two." The Toy wages a war tinged with oxymorons awaiting re-animation/re-birth into a genetically engineered embryonic form. When humans merged with machines, the sub-ordinary became bound--merely odds and ends in a game of heads or tails. In other words--the perfect toys. Such is the price of Incorporation, the paradox of the "Two" becoming One...
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 09:38:03 (EDT)
First time back here for me in a while too. Happy Birthday Ramoana. And Miss Stubbs - it's great to see you here again. I aspire to one day joining Ralph as an "honorary female".
Dara (Posted from IP:
Ireland - Thursday, October 19, 2000 at 07:16:11 (EDT)
Check out the latest issue of the "Lazy and Web-IMpaired" issue #226: ***Samantha Mumba's Body II Body samples Ashes to Ashes: Video revelation *****Bowie records Who cover for tribute CD ******BEEB hanging in there on charts **** Bowie makes "influential" list, but not very? *****Bing and Bowie on Martha Stewart Xmas CD? ******Vice Presidential candidate tolerant of Bowie-loving daughter and much more.... subscribe through TeenageWildlife! http://www.teenagewildlife.com/info/newsletters/dbfan/
Bonster (dbfan@aol.com) (Posted from IP:
Richmond, VA USA - Wednesday, October 18, 2000 at 22:53:37 (EDT)
I just read the lyrics to Little Toy Soldier while I was checking out the lyrics to Little Bombardier. That one is a mindblower! Nevada and Miss Stubbs, you should check it out.
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Wednesday, October 18, 2000 at 15:36:59 (EDT)
you could never be a "toy" KMSV. You have powers over males you could never understand. Meanwhile "little bombadier" ....reminds me of male government using lesser males as war toys. However once the government stops using them, they hope (like the toys they had as children ) they will go away. This of course is not possible in the grown up world (unless they are 'Killed In Action').This song illustrates the burden these battered males become as they seek acceptance back into the big toy box.
Miss Stubbs (Posted from IP:
USA - Wednesday, October 18, 2000 at 15:30:34 (EDT)
Aw thanks for the birthday wishes! Me and Mom are going on a boat cruise in a little bit, just for the day - it's gorgeous outside! and thanks for the LOVELY bday pressies, Fyr! xoxox RaM
RaMOANa (ramoana@davidbowie.com) (Posted from IP:
On the briny, USA - Wednesday, October 18, 2000 at 11:52:19 (EDT)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY RaMOANa!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Luv ya lots , have a kewl day :) xoxoxoxoxoxox
Fyr (Posted from IP:
A sunny Bungalow, USA - Wednesday, October 18, 2000 at 11:30:24 (EDT)
I'm thinking Nevada that a master manipulator such as Bowie would have used "toy" more than a half dozen (or whatever the actualy amount is) times... I mean aren't we, as his loyal fans, also his toys? Now for the continuing Debate Coverage... What was up with the Popeye-esque comments from George Dubya regarding affirmative action? I paraphrase but basically it was "I'm for what I'm for and that's all that I'm for... And I support that." I never laughed so during a debate hard in my whole life. Also, I saw the new U2 video this morning... Not enough Clayton, but it was pretty damn cool.
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Wednesday, October 18, 2000 at 09:34:01 (EDT)
Hallo, I'am interested in of David Bowie and I like him. He is very interesting and super singer, isn't he? I love his music. I think, he is the best of everybody! I'am 16 years and I'm going to the gymnasium in my town.I'am from Czech Republic. That's all. Thank you and send me answer! Bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lucie rehakova (l.rehakova@gvmyto.cz) (Posted from IP:
vysoke myto, cz europe - Wednesday, October 18, 2000 at 09:13:01 (EDT)
RaMOANa!!!!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kali (Posted from IP:
Tootin' his pipes for RaM, USA - Wednesday, October 18, 2000 at 08:40:11 (EDT)
KMSV, in the song "It's Gonna Be Me," Bowie croons--"She breaks down in my arms like a treasured toy and I feel her pain..." No special meaning perhaps but a very sarcastic and completely ironic statement. The song expresses the selfish and self-indulgent persona of the young, philandering Bowie. Back then DB couldn't get enough "toys" to keep him company...It's cool that you guys are noticing the toy references in early Bowie songs. I think there are only a half a dozen songs with the word toy in them...Take Care, All...
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 17, 2000 at 17:37:09 (EDT)
Hi all, interested in (dare i say it)other music interests of Bowie fans, as conducting a world wide study on the link between Bowie appreciation and high I.Q. Interested in your Comments Also found that 'Grandaddy's' 'The Sophtware slump'one of the best albums heard this year, so far Ed
Eddie (eaquinn@icscotland.net) (Posted from IP:
Glasgow, Scotland - Tuesday, October 17, 2000 at 17:10:49 (EDT)
The word "toy" is in It's Gonna Be Me," too, but I didn't get any special meaning out of it, maybe someone else can try. There's also Come Buy My Toys and I bet a few more we've all missed... Funny, you'd think that word would be used a lot, esp. by someone like Bowie.
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 17, 2000 at 14:43:48 (EDT)
The ultimate for male's toys is destruction and being torn apart, as young male attempts to control the toy.The only male toy not to suffer is the teddy bear,only because the male in all his vanity has impressed is own personality on the teddy bear and therefore can be faulted..Fast foerward twenty years and teddy bear becomes stepford wife.
Miss Stubbs (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 17, 2000 at 14:39:14 (EDT)
The new album "Toy," describes what it means to be a pawn, restrained, bound by another's affectations. The Lover's Knot becomes a restraint! Toy--middle english teg, tye, from old english "teag;" akin to old norse "taug," KNOT, BINDING. A Toy is one that can be used to further the purposes of another: "It's not that Barbie Doll, her heart's been broken just like you..." Toy= Gadget, Machine, Contrivance: "Tin Machine, Tin Machine, Baby Doll, Baby Doll." Then of course there is the human toy, the doll-girl, the girl-toy: "Give her a name and a clean rag doll." This "Toy," is a strange enticement..."
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 17, 2000 at 12:10:00 (EDT)
please help me!....i've heard there is such a place on the web...a site either run by bowie himself....or one he is frequently on chatting...if anyone knows about this...please email...i need your help.
miriam (neutrln0@aol.com) (Posted from IP:
davie, fl USA - Tuesday, October 17, 2000 at 01:44:20 (EDT)
Hi Aimee! I barely remember you from when this was The Bowie File. But browsing through the archives today helped jog my memory. Great to see you again as well, and I promise to visit this site more often. Bowie's music is still great and relevant, Evan's site is still one of the best music sites on the web and all of you are some of the coolest fans I've ever chatted with. Nice to be back.
The Detective AKA Joe (radioaddict50@hotmail.com) (Posted from IP:
Madison, WI USA - Monday, October 16, 2000 at 17:53:51 (EDT)
Hey Aimee! Nice to see you back again!
Kali (Posted from IP:
USA - Monday, October 16, 2000 at 16:36:23 (EDT)
Hi, all. Great to see the old "faces" are still haunting this joint, that it's still a place to find intelligent life in the Bowie universe. I agree with all...excellent news about new material on "Toy," and clever speculation on the name. Very Bowie-esque thinking, Nevada.
aimee (aimeekessler4@hotmail.com) (Posted from IP:
USA - Monday, October 16, 2000 at 16:24:55 (EDT)
Hey People!! Download a live video of Ziggy Stardust performing "Changes"! It's free, too! -- www.throttlebox.com -- D-Generate
D-Generate (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Monday, October 16, 2000 at 12:36:01 (EDT)
Hi Pam, yes I did! Thank you!!! I apologize -- I thought I had e-mailed you when it arrived. :-) Glad to see you back on the GB!
Kali (Posted from IP:
USA - Monday, October 16, 2000 at 08:44:57 (EDT)
Ah, the David Bowie File. One of the first Internet pages I searched for - with the gloriuous browser that was Mosaic. Why do I feel like that was the Stone age??
Bew (bewlay@online.no) (Posted from IP:
Norway - Monday, October 16, 2000 at 05:46:44 (EDT)
Dammit, I haven't been here for such a long time. Just had to read everything from about the last month. I do remember finding the Bowie File for the very first time with my very first internet connection. Aha, there were other people with the same strange fascination ;) Hi to everyone. oh yeah, Kali, did you get your mail?
Pam (Posted from IP:
Richmond, Va USA - Sunday, October 15, 2000 at 23:25:27 (EDT)
Hi!Have any of you ever met Bowie in person and want to tell me all the details?It would be a dream come true for me if I ever did but I don't think it ever will!My favourite track at the moment is Always Crashing in the same Car from years ago and the best tour I saw was Outside
Kim Barry (Kimbarry@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP:
Newcastle upon Tyne, UK - Sunday, October 15, 2000 at 20:32:27 (EDT)
THE JACKAL (Posted from IP:
PARIS, EU - Sunday, October 15, 2000 at 17:02:46 (EDT)
First time on the guestbook, and just say that my fave piece of Bowie footage, which was his performance of 'Footstompin' on 'The Dick Cavett Show' (1974). Will visit soon! Ed.
eddie (eaquinn@icscotland.net) (Posted from IP:
Glasgow, scotland - Sunday, October 15, 2000 at 11:57:06 (EDT)
Interesting man with a golden voice!!!!! Can't get enough of it! 'Wordonawing' and 'Wild is the wind' are my favourite songs. I'm a fan since 1974 and I can't get enough of David Bowie....Love all his work!!!!
Anneke Koot (annekekoot@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP:
Soest, Netherlands - Saturday, October 14, 2000 at 21:21:09 (EDT)
Well, after a long, LONG absence, I find myself writing into Teenage Wildlife for the first time in, oh, two or three years! Hi Evan, nice to see your page is still going strong. ILSA!!! IS THAT THE SAME ILSA THAT I KNEW IN 1996??? If you can't remember me, check the guestbook archive in May of 1996, I'm there. ANYONE KNOW IF JOSIE, SHAKEY, OR ARNOLD CORNS ARE STILL AROUND? I visit again sometime soon... Bye...
The Detective AKA Joe (radioaddict50@hotmail.com) (Posted from IP:
Madison, WI USA - Saturday, October 14, 2000 at 15:56:54 (EDT)
Seeing as I haven't posted here in a long while, and as you are all talking politics instead of me for a change ! can I just take this opportunity to sneak in a wee bit of my own again - no - not my usual rantings - just a wee note to pay respects to Donald Dewar - Scotland's first 'First Minister' in 300 years, who died suddenly on Wednesday :( Although he's not of my party, he was a rare thing in politics - a genuine man that cared passionately about his country - he will be a great loss to Scotland. http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/2653/Donald_Dewar.htm
Jeaj (jeej@globalnet.co.uk) (Posted from IP:
in mourning for a great man.., SCOTLAND - Friday, October 13, 2000 at 17:14:34 (EDT)
Dear Ralph, stopped us all from always crashing in the same car. In the all female world of the future he will be made the patron saint of shoppers, and therefore an honorary female. Ralph saved us from boys with technological toys, now we need to be saved from the boys with biological toys playing tin soldiers with our very being. Evil males in white coats not content with growing human ears on rats, have now succeeded in growing fully functioning human male genitals on the backs of rats. Only a matter of time therefore that these 'phallic' rats will escape into the sewers and multiply, where they will jump out into the streets and cause terror to females in light summer dresses. I recommend to females everywhere to wear re-enforced pants (even in high summer heat) to stop these rats from climbing up to where they should not. Also old females in bingo halls should be paged regularly and told to keep their legs together.
Miss Stubbs (Posted from IP:
USA - Friday, October 13, 2000 at 14:30:10 (EDT)
FWIW, I think that "Toy" as a lyrical motif, as in perhaps a resurrection of "Come and Buy My Toys," is just fine. Nevada, you're playing with "Toy" like Bowie played with "hours..." That's great. It worked last year, it could work when the new one comes out next year. To use Bowie's own words, the ideas in the posts below could serve as a "thru line." But "Toy" as a concept--hell, any concept--makes me leery.
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Friday, October 13, 2000 at 14:20:31 (EDT)
Anyone feel like joining me in a couple of verses of Country Joe MacDonald?
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Friday, October 13, 2000 at 07:56:54 (EDT)
George Washington chopped down the cherry tree as a typical act of male violence. Had the first president been 'Georgina' Washington she would have picked the cherries and baked a pie, offering nourishment for all. No need to have pressed medals on chests to say "I have fought in a war" Georgina would (like all the women) have got her own medals (a hefty bosom ) and thrust them on the nation saying "drink from the milk of human kindness". Another male president and armageddon approaches, we must get females everywhere balancing books on their head so that when the oil and waters splash over the cities, males are sliding all over place while the females walk proud and upright. No toys for girls, they have no need to control, just a dolly to look after
Miss Stubbs (Posted from IP:
Boston, USA - Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 17:34:53 (EDT)
Toy from old english "toggen," akin to OD "tocken," to entice, and latin "ducere," to draw in or pull about, greek "zeugen" to beget, make ready, procure. A Wild Fancy, An Odd Conceit. Bowie is very toysome--disposed to toy, wanton. He is a roving, frolicsome thing...
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 15:50:02 (EDT)
Rancell, I am very happy that the "Toy" album will have some new material on it. And the theme of the "toy," is wonderfully odd. The concept conjures up something far more subversive than Love dolls, boy-toys, sex-toys etc...Don't you think?
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 15:32:12 (EDT)
Ole' Ralph stood in front of auto industry execs in Detroit on Tuesday and berated them for a half hour or so for fighting every request to enhance safety as though their industry would be destroyed. At the end, he told them to remember his words the next time a big-party candidate came to them and pandered. Meantime, even death penalty supporters were horrified by Bush's Wicker Man-like joy at imposing the death penalty, which, of course, he misstated. (See, e.g., Lars-Erik Nelson today at www.nydailynews.com.) The general public? Bush wins the debate hands down. Zogby, CNN and the other trackers have been moving his way all week. After last night, by Monday, his lead could be beyond the margin of error. Eddie Vedder, Ben Harper, Patti Smith and more at an MSG rally for Nader tomorrow, tickets only $25. How about those Mets? How about the fact that "Toy" will have new material on it?
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 10:52:52 (EDT)
Despite the fact that the New Album "Toy," is a gimmick, I am sure that it has important features that are not immediately apparent. Bowie always has an ingenious and usually new scheme or angle up his sleeves... Toy (Tuig, Zeug)--Device, Gadget, Implement, Tool. Trash, Junk, Trinket, Trifle. But we will put the toy to good use!!!
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 10:35:24 (EDT)
A constant characteristic of the Trickster figure is his production of laughter and his ability to play. Trickster is a tool maker/finder, yet he inevitably is also a gamester with tools. The semiotic of "tool" in western culture is a division of human activity into "work" and "play," "creation" and "recreation," or "serious" and "frivolous." Trickster confounds the division between tools and play because "play" is an essential part of the relation of tool use to objects. In fact, TOOLS ARE TOYS and vice versa, even if our too-serious selves are uncomfortable with the equation. Toys are obviously the functional tools of a sign-using species at learning and discovery. The semiotic act, as TOOL or TOY is essentially a drawing of boundaries to the world of stuff. Trickster as the repository of cleverness and humor, is both a creator & a challenger of boundaries. TOY= Tool/Stuff/Trash--object of "little worth," yet paradoxically of "great utility." Toy/magical fetish-small representation of larger world...
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 10:26:16 (EDT)
Try reading "The Big Oil Rip-Off" over at www.ralphnader.org sometime if you get bored. Old Ralph has as much chance of ever winning the Presidency as I have of winning the WWF Heavyweight belt, but the site offers some real eye openers if you're interested. And did anyone else notice the BAD grammar that Geo. W. Bush used last night? "Gore and Hillary Clinton and them..."? Yikes, that is as bad as the time he pronounced the word "subliminal" as "sub-lim-in-able."(he did that twice in the same soundbite, so it wasn't a mistake) Also, if you watch network tv, there is a hilarious Snickers ad with a guy trying to decide which way to vote. An elephant is on one shoulder and a donkey on the other. The elephant goes on about how people mistake him for his dad on the phone and the donkey claims to have invented the Internet and pants. Hilarious stuff!
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Thursday, October 12, 2000 at 08:10:59 (EDT)
Ya know, we had that very same discussion in one of my classes in Library School at Rutgers. That's when I decided to become an archivist instead...
Kali (Posted from IP:
Born Again Archivist, USA - Wednesday, October 11, 2000 at 23:56:04 (EDT)
There are no female presidential candidates simply because libraries have not been segregated. Brainwashed by male literature and intimidated by luring males that use the library. Females have lost all confidence in being the next US President. I have proposed to my superiors at the library that the 'Touchshiek Foundation' be set up to give males the library they want, which is (as you might guess) a library with a sawdust covered floor, shelves full of girlie magazines and material of a disgusting nature, furniture that can be easily broken, spittoons instead of water fountains and a few bears to dance and fight with. On the other hand the female library will be we administered by the 'Baby Grace Foundation'. Which (so named after another female victim), will provide a peaceful place where females can be so happy studying, that they will be able to walk around in their underwear balancing books on their head smelling the oil.Its sad that my 'friend' big Bessy wanted to be president, but was sur-pressed by the male establishment. Now shes working the oil rigs. All is not lost as down in the underground she has found something true, OIL! and as the oil says "get me outta here" she knows as a small cog she has control on the big wheels.
Miss Stubbs (Posted from IP:
Boston, USA - Wednesday, October 11, 2000 at 17:48:57 (EDT)
How could I forget to mention that I came to visit The Bowie File in either late 1995 or early 1996, and joined T/W on the first day Evan had registration. It's still the best Bowie site anywhere, including BowieNet. I just hate chasing those little icons around my monitor screen to click on them, and then once I get in still can't find anything but the news! Wonder if I have email there? heheh. I know when I have it at T/W because Evan is waaaay ahead of BowieNet when it comes to email (among other things)!
Ilsa (Posted from IP:
USA - Wednesday, October 11, 2000 at 16:32:13 (EDT)
Hi all. I hope those of you who've had birthdays since my last visit had happy ones. Just wanted to remind you to use Evan's links when you buy books, CDs and videos. I went to Amazon without coming here first and then, happily, thought before I ordered, and came back to enter Amazon through the T/W link. Support your local Bowie webmaster! :-)
Ilsa (jsands@hereintown.net) (Posted from IP:
Phreezing Phrostburg, MD USA - Wednesday, October 11, 2000 at 16:22:26 (EDT)
Strange lands, indeed, I was in Cappadocia and Istanbul. Then off to Paris, which is strange in its own way :-) But I was able to find there the edition of InRocktuptibles (or however the hell they spell that) with the free CD including Bowie single.

Well, another Pres Debate tonight, and although I have been following this election with keen interest (especially since we may be about to elect the singularly most inept candidate ever to run in the form of the Shrub), I don't know if I can stomach another pathetic display like the first debate. I agree that the Veeps did a much better job. I have a little piece of advice for Gore and Bush, that I learned in first grade: ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION!!! And to the moderator, Jim Lehrer: keep those big babies in line! Sheesh, if they can't follow the simple rules of the debate, that they insisted on, how can either of them hope to run the whole damn country???
Ramsey (ramsey@dca.net) (Posted from IP:
Philly, USA - Wednesday, October 11, 2000 at 12:05:53 (EDT)

The New Album "Toy," conjures up many images and ideas: 1)a person used as an instrument by another person. 2)a diminutive thing or person. There is a very thin line between Affection and Affectation. And this is the line that the seducer always crosses. In order to attain his "piece of fun," the philanderer must use deception and flattery. His toy becomes his implement, his idle sport. "Toy" is an album that describes what it means "to play with a young girl's affection."
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 10, 2000 at 17:48:47 (EDT)
Thanks for the belated birthday wishes Ramsey! Hope you enjoyed your travels in strange lands ;)

Rancell, the part I found ironic about the debates was that the vice presidential debates were less contrived and more intelligent than the presidential debates were. I found it uncomfortable watching two grown men aka Bush and Gore pointing fingers at each other and saying "nyah nyah nyah!" Well maybe they didn't say that - but that feeling was there.

I remember visiting Bowie File, I just didn't know what it was until later on. Bonster and Divine Ms. Pattibowie pointed me back in the direction of Teenage Wildlife a few years back, but I still had to turn images off on my browser because it was so damned slow! Oh, the days of being patient on a 14.4!

Tura (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 10, 2000 at 14:01:27 (EDT)
Cheney a nice guy? Don't make my soda come out of my nose from laughter, Rancell! ;-) Hey Nevada, I was in Boston recently and thought about going to every library I could find looking for you. But I went to some bars instead. Anyway, nice to see you back. Now if you could just get Miss Stubbs and the rest of the gang, we could have a real hootenanny around these here parts. :-)
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 10, 2000 at 13:46:56 (EDT)
The switch to TW from the File over the years has made for some interesting moments in the office when, as I often do, leave TW running. I'm still employed, just barely. KMSV, just before the VP debate we switched between CNN and ABC, and I can't recall if it was Greenfield or Jennings, but one of them opened up the coverage by joking about Cheney's blue shirt, but then seriously analyzing it, saying that it was a way to show he's warmed up. Cheney as a nice guy? Still a stretch.
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Tuesday, October 10, 2000 at 12:21:02 (EDT)
In a more recent installment, where Bowie alludes to the "darker affections," and the "violation of innocence," Bowie exposes yet another "defilement of youth," in the song "We Prick You." "Rose-kissed foxy girls, shoes, little white shoes." "Little fragile champion boys, toys, little black toys, dripping on the end of a gun." Is the new DB album "Toy," about the "dark affections," of the philanderer? We all know Bowie was one in his youth. In the remade Bolan song, 20th Century Boy, Bowie sings: "I wanna be your TOY." A mere object, a plaything--disposable and cheap? Is that an expression of affection? Bowie & Bolan had their share of "treasured toys." In "It's gonna be me," Bowie croons: "She Breaks down into my arms like a treasured TOY." In "Baby Loves My Way," Bowie is "an un-wanted toy." "She fools around with other boys, and treats me like an unwanted toy." In the following song about a TOY, Bowie really "expresses his affection." "The little toy soldier got wound too tight and he beat her to death."
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 10, 2000 at 10:53:24 (EDT)
Toye (obsolete meaning of the word) Defloration/Seduction. And other more vile characters emerge. The philanderer, the lecher, the seducer. In the song Grave-Digger, the casual defloration turns to wanton depravity: "She thinks it's down below with the rest of her TOYS." The "toy" becomes a baited trap, a decoy, a snare in "Come and Boy My Toys." "Smiling girls and rosy boys, Come and buy my little toys..." In "Let Me Sleep," the harlot-man cajoles with new inducements. Are they the fetishes/talismans of sex-magic? "Place your ragged dolls with all the toys..." "I will show you a game..." "Lock away your childhood and throw away the key." In Karma Man, Bowie depicts alludes to smooth-tongued lies/hollow-hearted promises of peace and war: "Fairy tale skin, depicting scenes from human zoos..." "Impermanent toys like peace and war..." Chilling implications. In London boys, he describes the audacious youth, Don Quixotes/Don Juans who "think they have had a lot of fun." "Got it made with the rest of the toys."
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 10, 2000 at 10:05:28 (EDT)
In reply to ``shaky`` about his insulting comments about the bowie concert he`s referring to. first of all can I say, I was at that same concert and I know this because I am the young lad in the tight jeans,to say bowie spent half the night stareing at me is an insult.It was closer to 90% of the night and I did`nt mind at all.To my astonishment you said the highlight of the night was burgers ,2 for a quid,you obviously did`nt try the rear bar where the special was buy a hotdog and get a signed bowie cd free.
crustreg (Posted from IP:
newcastle, usa - Monday, October 09, 2000 at 17:53:47 (EDT)
Happy Canadian Thanksgiving everyone!!! :-)
I too remember The David Bowie File... back when it was first online, and I was using a text browser, and a very very very slow modem (and downloading pics of DB for the first time)... makes me feel so nostalgic - but I really do enjoy being able to browse TW with a 56K and an iMac :-)

Alys (alpalmer@ucalgary.ca) (Posted from IP:
Calgary, AB CANADA - Monday, October 09, 2000 at 16:19:10 (EDT)
same for me ramsey, the david bowie file was the first bowie site i found and have been coming on a regular basis ever since (especially since it is my home page). hi kali. to keep this bowie related (not that it isn't), has anyone gotten the new nic pegg bio? any good?
patti (pattibowie@home.com) (Posted from IP:
freakin freezin philly, - Monday, October 09, 2000 at 14:09:46 (EDT)
I remember the David Bowie File... Didn't Hoover keep that one in a special place along side his file on Lennon? ;-P Ramsey, check yo mail. Reinhold, nice to see you again. xo :)
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Monday, October 09, 2000 at 12:24:25 (EDT)
Reinhold, I certainly do remember the David Bowie File, my first Bowie site I visited. And still going strong!!
Ramsey (Posted from IP:
USA - Monday, October 09, 2000 at 09:06:41 (EDT)
TURA!!! May I have the honor of wishing you the most belated happy birthday of all. My only excuse is that I have been out of the country for the past 3 weeks. I assume you've recovered from your stupor by now :-).

Sorry to do this folks, but KMSV, please email me, your BN account may not be working as I've been trying to reach you with no reply.

And hello to all my pals here at TW!!
Ramsey (ramsey@dca.net) (Posted from IP:
Philly, USA - Monday, October 09, 2000 at 09:05:25 (EDT)

Nostalgia! Headcount!! Who of you does remember "The David Bowie File"??;)
Reinhold (Posted from IP:
D - Monday, October 09, 2000 at 06:48:17 (EDT)
Love your site although I don't get to visit it much. Hi Davy! ~CH
Caroline (lucidpoetress@aol.com) (Posted from IP:
Harrisburg, NC USA - Monday, October 09, 2000 at 00:31:50 (EDT)
i think the only think sadder than a bowie fan is david himself i have seen him live if he was that is and the highlight of my night was they hada special on the burgers two for a quid.he smoked two much and bored me to death with drug takeing tales from years ago.he spent the whole night stareing at a young lad in tight jeans who was doing the sound so what does that tell you.there was one moment of brillence he lit two ciggeys at once.his rapier sharp wit was in full swing as he kept introduceing the gutair player by the wrong name as you can imagine the sides were splitting left right and centre not .to be fair he looked the part and his gutair playing on quicksand was good also queen bicth was pure entertainment.sadly too little too late .
shakey (Posted from IP:
USA - Sunday, October 08, 2000 at 16:57:37 (EDT)
Hi Rachel :-) Bowie @ The Beeb IS a wonderful set isn't it? :-)) FANTASTIC stuff :-) btw...you can see some pics of little Alex through a link on this very site ;-) http://www.teenagewildlife.com/Appearances/Press/2000/0919/hello/ you can also find the pics here (on another brilliant site) http://www.bowiewonderworld.com/gallery/alex.htm and you're right, she is very beautiful :-) love on ya Spidey XXX
Spidey (Spidey@davidbowie.com) (Posted from IP:
UK - Sunday, October 08, 2000 at 04:12:43 (EDT)
Well; it's been quite a few months since I've visited here, but I bought the Bowie at the Beep 3 cd set and it's so great, that my love for David has blossomed. The live cd in London is by far my favorite as it has great songs from all his eras and they are performed with such intensity, passion and beauty. Wild as the Wind is sung so beautifully, it brings tears to my eyes. Other great songs on there are Stay, I'm Afraid of Americans, This is Not America, Cracked Actor, Hallo Spaceboy, Let's Dance and The Man who sold the world. But they are all great, really. It brings back great memories of when I saw him perform in Chicago on October 17, 1997. I was 20 feet away and it was mindblowing experience. He has retained his extraordinary beauty, both physically and musically. Does anyone know if there are any photos of his new daughter online? I bet she looks fantastic with such gorgeous parents. All my love to the Thin White Duke, Rachel.
Rachel (suntop@uiuc.edu) (Posted from IP:
IL USA - Saturday, October 07, 2000 at 20:02:50 (EDT)
Patti! How the hell are ya? :-)
Kali (Posted from IP:
USA - Saturday, October 07, 2000 at 19:05:10 (EDT)
actually rednik, it is guinness. :-) xox, patti
patti (pattibowie@home.com) (Posted from IP:
- Saturday, October 07, 2000 at 16:41:57 (EDT)
Dear IP: below Have you been on the Guiness again? Grow up you silly twat and stop talking bollocks.
Rednik (rednik@bowiewonderworld.com) (Posted from IP:
Cheadle, UK - Saturday, October 07, 2000 at 02:19:26 (EDT)
Cyberspace Oddity - Why his site is gone Why has his site gone? It's quite simple really a certain Bowie site webmaster acts as the copyright policeman for all things Bowie. And when in his opinion another Bowie website like Cyberspace Oddity posts sound files like the BBC sampler promo, (which strictly speaking is a breach of copyright), he reports them not only to a certain henchman at BowieNet, he also reports them to the site owner's service provider. He's done it with the Suffragette City website, he did the same with the DB Fan letter thingy, he's tried it with a few other sites over the past year or so. Who is he? Well some call him the BOWIENET CORPORATE APOLOGIST others see him as a henchman of that other slimy creep David Priest (remember him?) Take a good look at the name of the poster of this message - if you were to disregard two letters in the name - who do you get? You get the CORPORATE APOLOGIST and the slimy sleazeball, who despite his claims of innocence, is the one individual solely responsible for the demise of Cyberspace Oddity, Suffragette City, DB Fan letter and many more websites will suffer, if he's allowed to get away with it. We got rid of Priest's site - let's get rid of his, boycott it, bombard his mail servers, whatever it takes to show this creep he is not welcome in the Bowie community.
redniker (Posted from IP:
USA - Friday, October 06, 2000 at 19:59:21 (EDT)
Coldfyr : thanks for the invite and glad to know your ok. I do occasionally pop into conversation piece, but having only a limited time online I do not stay long as I have to whizz elsewhere. Anyway I enjoy the reading rather than the writing and i also usually enjoy reading Rancell's lengthy tomes
Johnny's best pal (Posted from IP:
USA - Friday, October 06, 2000 at 17:36:20 (EDT)
Hey Rancell, maybe you can explain to me why everyone running for office must now wear a black suit, white shirt and red tie. I noticed Cheyne changed up and wore black suit with blue shirt and blue tie. Does that make him like a commie or something? Maybe Gore could dig out David Byrne's old suit from Stop Making Sense (pun not intended, but I'll take it anyway), and Bush could wear that grass suit that David Arquette wore on Conan. It might make people watch more of the debates, anyway. :) Bowie related part of the post: BOWIE ROCKS!
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Friday, October 06, 2000 at 07:58:38 (EDT)
Johnny's pal.... I'm here... Come join us on the TW Message Board :) And for the remark about John Lennon having value to the world.. yes, he did as a musician. He was one of my faves, and I was heartbroken when he was murdered .. but I don't think he was anymore valuable than anyone else .. It's a sad state of the world when one must be famous in order to get justice ...
Coldfyr (Posted from IP:
USA - Friday, October 06, 2000 at 04:05:19 (EDT)
**At least Lennon died without pain or indignity.** Even the most cursory media accounts of what happened to Lennon 20 years ago show this to be a candidate to lead a list of this boring board's stupidest statements ever. **If Chapman has been a good boy and is of sound mind and body now he should have an equal chance of parole just like any one else.** No kidding. In fact, "an equal chance" is exactly what he got and will continue to get and even deserves. He's earned it. He's been a model prisoner. That's how the parole system works. You might be interested to know that the view you're refuting is more or less what has been argued on Conversation Piece: that Lennon's value to the world should remove Chapman from parole consideration. There's no need for that unfortunate view anyway, because Chapman is not of sound mind. That's the finding.
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Thursday, October 05, 2000 at 18:32:44 (EDT)
John Lennon! John Lennon! all this fuss about a guy who wrote a few songs and played the piano, HE DIDNT SAVE THE WORLD!. People who mug old ladies and beat them up get shorter parole periods than Chapman. At least Lennon died without pain or indignity. If Chapman has been a good boy and is of sound mind and body now he should have an equal chance of parole just like any one else. Bowie, Lennon all of them know the risks, it comes with the territory and the fact that writing lyrics is a double edged sword, money and fame on one side and loonys making up their own meanings on the other. This board is so boring these days, where's Margot. Coldfyr, Nevada etc?
johnny's best pal (Posted from IP:
Croydon, UK - Thursday, October 05, 2000 at 16:54:12 (EDT)
Kali and Patti (and everyone else), as to M.D. Chapman, New York's Mayor Rudy Guiliani reminded the New York State Parole Board that the convicted murderer also considered killing Bowie. In yesterday's NY Times story about the board's denial of Chapman's parole request, after noting that Yoko Ono had been "invited" to share her views on the parole request by letter (in a sidebar, the Times reprinted the entire Ono letter opposing parole), it wrote that Guiliani, apparently unsolicited, also wrote to the board to oppose parole. It's only one paragraph, but the Times quotes Guiliani writing that Chapman planned the murder "in order to become famous himself." It says that Guiliani wrote that, to achieve that goal, Chapman also had considered killing other celebrities, including Bowie and Elizabeth Taylor. Interestingly, here's the first passage from the parole board decision that the Times quoted: "Your most vicious and violent act was apparently fueled by your need to be acknowledged. During your parole hearing, this panel noted your continued interest in maintaining your notoriety." I found that declaration chilling. The denial of parole for a first-time applicant, of course, is not in the least surprising. Chapman is 45. He will be eligible for reapplication in two years. I'd expect this will be a semiannual ritual for a long long time. Despite his model conduct, the parole board suggested mental illness is still a problem. And as to the passing of time, no, people haven't forgotten. A vigil was held, thousands of signatures were collected, and dozens of broadcast outlets' vans and trucks were at Attica's state prison in upstate NY on Tuesday. And inside, Chapman is still held in protective custody, by himself, because the notoriety of the crime has made him a target of inmates--who haven't forgotten either.
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Thursday, October 05, 2000 at 11:03:33 (EDT)
And if you thought the debate or Posada behind the plate was scary last night, think of this: While you were safe at home, the Wallflowers came back, at MSG opening for the Who, and they insisted on playing "Heroes." A not-reliable reviewer in the NY Post (see the entertainment section at www.nypost.com) who panned the show from beginning to end said that that was one of the band's better moments. Can you imagine? Three more shows at MSG this week. Great seats on the floor still available right in front of these so-called performers at the box and TM for the shows, which are billed as sellouts. Price: $270. Talk about scary.
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Wednesday, October 04, 2000 at 14:28:05 (EDT)
I just heard it too, Patti. I'm so relieved it was denied. Where have those 20 years gone?
Kali (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 17:09:28 (EDT)
happy to say i just heard mark david chapman's first opportunity for parole was...DENIED!! yay! what i can't believe is that it has been 20 years since it happened.
patti (pattibowie@home.com) (Posted from IP:
- Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 17:01:17 (EDT)
Hmmm - I knew there was a reason that I didn't watch TV (one other reason being that I didn't want to watch Pierre Trudeau's funeral, and/or American presidential crap)... but to listen to more Bowie songs in commercials...*shudder*.
Just received Bowie at the Beeb (3CD) in the mail today -- I am pretty impressed, and have been listening to it all morning while painting. Disc one I quite like- I've always been partial to the old Bowie tunes. Disc two is good also, though I haven't listened to it quite as much -- but hearing the same version of Ziggy twice is wearing on me already. Disc three.... Mmmmmm! very very nice! Makes me miss NYC! Except I do have one (wee) complaint -- I don't think that this particular version of Hallo Spaceboy was very spectacular. It just seemed to lack depth, pizazz, that sort of thing. And, I disliked Holly and Emm singing "Bye bye love" - I don't know, it is just so much better if DB, or even Gail, sings it. I'm not much for the "eye-candy"... alright, that's enough - my ramblings have gone on enough... back to listening to Bowie at the Beeb...again! :-)

Alys (alpalmer@ucalgary.ca) (Posted from IP:
Calgary, CANADA - Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 14:19:12 (EDT)
This is a really cool website. David is a pioneer of today's music and he deserves 'A LOT' of respect. I don't care how much money he earns, I thought his new child was beautiful and he is still a mean rocker so ner ner!! And I'm not putting that line in about the 'finger' because it's pants! Nuff said mate!
Jo Whitby (heartland@nme.com) (Posted from IP:
Bristol, England - Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 12:53:03 (EDT)
David hasn't written a decent song in 20 years?? Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, so I'm not going to go on about that, even though I strongly disagree about that. In my opinion, David is one of the best song writers ever. If the magazine is going to make money for showing the photos of his baby, why can't he make some money aswell? It is his baby after all. If you think David's crap, you shouldn't be visiting this site. Oh yeah, 'more talent in his little finger than.'
Ivy (Posted from IP:
USA - Tuesday, October 03, 2000 at 01:45:13 (EDT)
crustreg (Posted from IP:
newcastle, Uk................................SA - Monday, October 02, 2000 at 16:33:14 (EDT)
KM has earned a job on Madison Avenue. Her suggestions are way more imaginative. A good indication of how cheesy these licensings are is the fact that one song, "Lust for Life," has been the basis of two major television commercial campaigns by two major prime time advertisers, a car company and a cruise company. So while we can say that the use of these songs doesn't change their significance, it's equally easy to see how the advertising industry is desperate to identify these great hooks as theme songs for their junk, and doesn't even do it with the imagination that using these songs deserves. They'll just recycle the same old same old. I bet that it costs far less to get Changes now than it did to get "Heroes" three years ago. I can't imagine Bowie is sitting watching TV and beaming with pride at these representations, yelling for the family to come quick, the networking commercial is being shown late in the fourth quarter, in prime time. Great placement. Watch that man. BTW, none of this is unexpected, because all these songs fall into the revenue-for-the-$55 million-debt category. Not that anyone would be surprised to hear, say, "Something in the Air" advertising Voicestream cellular. Evan: nice interview. I'm looking forward to reading this book. I'm interested to see how the author resolves that gap he talks about, the not-so-tiny one between pandering and challenging the audience.
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Monday, October 02, 2000 at 10:40:25 (EDT)
Here's another one: "Always Crashing in the Same Car" for Firestone tires...
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Monday, October 02, 2000 at 08:27:36 (EDT)
Rancell- How about Can't Help Thinking About Me for L'Oreal makeup, Be My Wife for DeBeers Diamond ads, or Chant Of Ever Circling Skeletal Family for Victoria's Secret. Of course, either party running for president could use Dodo. ;-P
KMSV (Posted from IP:
USA - Sunday, October 01, 2000 at 19:06:19 (EDT)
I saw that commercial this morning during one the Sunday morning chat shows, KMSV. With at least four (counting the Wallflowers still-execrable cover) running currently, we can safely say that Bowie is now blanketing the airwaves. Anyone want to bet which classic goes next? You gotta figure that "Golden Years" would make a great theme song for any of the many products out there that use nostalgia in their campaigns. Does the AARP need a theme song? ;-)
rancell (Posted from IP:
NYC, NY USA - Sunday, October 01, 2000 at 16:33:54 (EDT)
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