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Teenage Wildlife Guestbook April 2002

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yea, thanks Moby you are The Viacom poster child! Corporate Vegan! I'm gettin a Bacon cheezeburgar Extra Chilli Just for that Moo-Moo!
niteflite (Posted from IP: 63.125.186.130)
brooklyn, ny USA - Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 14:06:44 (EDT)
Speaking of money, Alys: $56 in the Chicago venue, and true to industry form, $72.75 at PNC. There are three price tiers at both, with the lawn seats--simply awful in NJ--at $36 and $37+. Factor in your TM charges, and it will be an expensive day. Granted, it is a full day, and it's not McCartney at $250. But I'd still rather pay the same amount and get 2.5-3 from just one performer in a theater anyday. I mean, just imagine what Busta could do with more than 45 minutes. ;-)
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 11:38:14 (EDT)
Rancell, I'm almost starting to wish that I lived near Toronto! LOL. Still hoping for a Vancouver date. Of course, this all hinges on the possibility of my having $$ around that time as well....
Alys (alpalmer@ucalgary.ca) (Posted from IP: 24.64.80.191)
Calgary, AB Canada - Tuesday, April 30, 2002 at 03:12:34 (EDT)
All the concert news!...Moby Area 2 tour dates with Bowie announced! To subscribe: dbfan@aol.com
Bonster (dbfan@aol.com) (Posted from IP: 152.163.206.191)
USA - Monday, April 29, 2002 at 21:04:29 (EDT)
Sorry Alys, only as close as Seattle, but this probably ain't all the dates. What a hoot. For us East Coasters, basically, everything is on sale at once, via MTV. Thanks loads, Moby!! When I get a chance, I'll be sure to send notes thanking Clear Channel and all your other corporate sponsors.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, USA - Monday, April 29, 2002 at 17:32:03 (EDT)
Rancell, I can only hope... my fingers are crossed! :)
Alys (alpalmer@ucalgary.ca) (Posted from IP: 24.64.80.191)
Calgary, AB Canada - Sunday, April 28, 2002 at 16:44:46 (EDT)
And Alys Area:One played Vancouver last year. Is a return on the horizon?
rancell (Posted from IP: 205.188.199.157)
NYC, NY USA - Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 16:15:16 (EDT)
My faith is waning rancell... but I will try to maintain it... after all, he did play Vancouver in '97... only 5yrs ago....
Alys (alpalmer@ucalgary.ca) (Posted from IP: 24.64.80.191)
Calgary, Ab Canada - Saturday, April 27, 2002 at 00:37:52 (EDT)
Notwithstanding the earlier alleged desire to record with TLC during the "hours..." sessions, you can't help but read that MTV report on poor Lisa Lopes and think, again (among other things), after all these years, Bowie is a very unusual person. His leaps in collaborators, appearances/performances, and pronouncements just over the past year shows he still marches very much to his own, bizarre, beat. Talk about unpredictable. ... Have faith Alys!!
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Friday, April 26, 2002 at 20:23:23 (EDT)
I wish Dave would play somewhere a bit closer to me... that's my only complaint! I wish I could be in NYC this June for the show, hang out with everyone... C'mon Dave, play in Vancouver!!! ;)
Alys (alpalmer@ucalgary.ca) (Posted from IP: 136.159.43.31)
Calgary, AB Canada - Friday, April 26, 2002 at 18:29:25 (EDT)
You're right, there is gonna be another show. So I guess you'll be holding court in a corner banquette all week? We can come and pay respects. I think that the Museum of Radio and Television running exhibition this summer is going to be really cool, just a bit more interesting than the current Richard Rodgers show. The museum has had artists perform there, BTW. Last night Bonnie pointed out that the Today show list was in USA Today yesterday. I had it sitting on my desk all day and never noticed. Apparently not many others did either.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Friday, April 26, 2002 at 11:23:33 (EDT)
Now Rancell, my man. You really should know that if it's a Ratpack place, that's where I'll be! If you get to Patsy's, try the Shrimp Parmesan. In fact all the deserts are pretty amazing, too. There'll be another show, hell yea. Arriving the 8th and leave the 13th to be on the safe side. I couldn't bear that Today show hoo-haw: too many babies and middle class soccer moms for my liking. I remember he did the Today show several years ago. I went to work late just to see it.
KMSv (Posted from IP: 209.3.112.65)
USA - Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 17:21:47 (EDT)
Source on that, BTW, is direct from NBC and Billboard.com
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 15:45:54 (EDT)
Wow, this one is wild: Bowie live on the Today show, out on Rockefeller Plaza, on June 14 before he goes to the UK. Holy cow.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 15:33:52 (EDT)
my boy bring out his new album soon Mumma so proud, he called it after all the people he shouted at who would not buy pappa Risso's ice cream .He ring his bell he say "Pappa Rizzo is here with der ice cream" and when they dont buy he say "whats wrong with my der ice cream? heathens all of you, you buy der ice cream or I shove it down your throat" then Pappa would ring der bell and wheelly the ice cream van to the next town playing rubber band on his big horn.
Big Mumma Rizzo (Posted from IP: 212.137.156.196)
Roswell, USA - Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 14:42:32 (EDT)
Is that Patsy's the pizza parlor, or the rat pack place on 56th St.? Either way it's not a bad feed, particularly if you like lots of chrome. ;-) One show in Manhattan, and it's private? No way. No possible way. Before these happy festivals, rehearsals, and promotional stops are done, there's gotta be more. Opening for the Stones this fall? Stranger things have happened.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 13:24:38 (EDT)
Looks like I'm buyin'. ;)
KMSV (Posted from IP: 209.3.112.57)
USA - Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 12:57:56 (EDT)
I am a raging battlemaid. I really rock the house. I live in rock legend. With David Bowie as my spouse. I don't suppose you've seen me, Or that you really should; Though I'm warped in Wyrd's weaving, I'm not what you'd call good. Before I was a Valkyrie, I was a maiden in a bower. David Himself picked me, And gave me Choosing power. Now DB has many Choosers, That he trains on battle fields. We become His arms and legs, Because His tools we wield. And because David is so busy, With way too much to plan, He said that my assignment, Was to pick the best fighting man. When he tucked you in his pocket, He blessed you with musical dares. And should you burn on a pyre, Rest assured I, the noble Ms. Stubbs will be there...!
Ms. Stubbs (Posted from IP: 4.17.147.25)
USA - Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 10:54:05 (EDT)
Loving the Aliens--NOT And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death. The Catholic Encyclopedia defines blasphemy as "a sin against the virtue of religion by which we render to God the honour due to Him as our first beginning and last end." It further states that "blasphemy is of its whole nature a mortal sin, the gravest that may be committed against religion. The seriousness of an affront is proportioned to the dignity of the person towards whom it is directed. Since the insult in blasphemy is offered to the ineffable majesty of God, the degree of its heinousness must be evident.'" God is just a word The gods forgot they made me, so I forget them too. They say he has two gods... The Jewish Encyclopedia defines blasphemy as "the evil of profane speaking of God." In Jewish law, as in nearly all laws of different peoples, blasphemy consists not in "the evil of profane speaking" of the gods of other peoples, but only of the god of their own people.
Nevada (Posted from IP: 4.17.147.25)
USA - Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 10:44:38 (EDT)
The heathen is the Lord of Misrule, the snake in the grass. His visions rise out of the misty, hazy, cosmic jive. Occult, veiled, and allusive, he remains the mystic seer in the clouds, the rapt clairvoyant behind the shrouds. Sometimes he is the trickster who puts a frost upon the windows of your soul. His blood is cold. A demon in human shape, imperturbable, and as still as death, he resides under a seal of secrecy. Irrevealable, evasive, he pays no regard to you. The heathen appears to be soulless but he's not. He's musing on other things, omens in the shadows, a paradise of fools...!
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP: 204.167.92.26)
USA - Thursday, April 25, 2002 at 10:17:32 (EDT)
Since I'm a betting woman, I'm actually going to go with the 9th and the 11 or 12th. Two dates with Bnet only on the 9th. I've got a dinner at Patsy's riding on it elsewhere so I'll stay pat with the hand I've dealt myself. If I'm wrong that son of a bitch better order the chicken! Tee hee. Me thought he dothed protested too mucheth. Or whatever. ;)
KMSV (Posted from IP: 209.3.112.15)
USA - Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 14:04:11 (EDT)
...living in the boonies gives you the distinct advantage of never knowing what the hell's going on. Last I heard (and it was a while back) Toy was supposed to be the next album. Now it's Heathen...when did this happen?
Ramona (ramona@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP: 216.135.14.225)
Possum Trot, KY USA - Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 12:19:45 (EDT)
Bowie's right, it is quiet here. We knew the 9th didn't look right, but I still wouldn't rule it out entirely if it's more than one night. They know, but they're quiet too. One thing for sure: It's definitely not the 13th either. Roseland is booked that day. With Meltdown starting Sunday and based on prior Bowienet missives, you can bank on a show on either the 10th, 11th or 12th of June. Are tix available tomorrow? Or just announced? Visconti is playing at Joe's Pub while Bowie is in the UK in June.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Wednesday, April 24, 2002 at 10:12:02 (EDT)
Wouldn't travel that far for a 90-minute set, but if I did, I'd be sure to catch the Asian Dub Foundation. Spectacular live act. Not sure what this score ADF will be doing is, but I'll bet they get it going. Is there even a remote chance that Bowie would jump up for a cover with someone sometime in the two weeks? If not, what is the point, at least from the Bowie fan perspective? Anyway, it seems like a pretty interesting lineup.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 16:11:25 (EDT)
The Meltdown news has just gone up as the lead story on Billboard: http://www.billboard.com/billboard/index.jsp
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Tuesday, April 23, 2002 at 11:31:07 (EDT)
Salut les mecs et les gonsesses de TW Web-site. Vous avez l'air enthousiates pour Heathen. Discrétion et élégance françaises obligent : je resterai silencieuse : mon précédent commentaire vient d'être effacé par malveillance pure. A gogo mes baisers et Bravissimo pour mon très cher gogo-dancer, derrière David Bowie, avec sa petite puce A. Zahra et son épousée Iman Abduljamid
Anne J. (Posted from IP: 80.11.153.114)
Paris, EC France - Monday, April 22, 2002 at 05:11:18 (EDT)
HELLO DAVE!
papa lazarou (Posted from IP: 194.6.2.152)
royston vasey, ??? - Sunday, April 21, 2002 at 17:45:03 (EDT)
we use to have a female heathen called Heather visit the library, with her large bags and small trolley . Somedays she would spend hours reading books on music .Some say she was a concert pianist many moons ago and had since travelled a stoney path.The super one day found a pile of ash and the police declared that she had spontaniously combusted, butI knew she had been burning away quietly for years unnoticed.
Miss Stubbs (Posted from IP: 172.183.212.242)
USA - Friday, April 19, 2002 at 14:10:01 (EDT)
I love David Bowie! I think that this site is cool, just because it has anything to do with David Bowie. I love this site. It has everything to do with what a good site has to have to get an audience!
iluvbowie (iluvbowie@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP: 204.116.181.191)
USA - Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 16:35:36 (EDT)
Bowie's Heathen turns up the whites of his eyes and refuses to believe lies. Despite the film over his eyes, the heathen is self-luminous. He is a/theist and a/gnostic of a different kind, holding the so called "true believer" up to shame, by taking the shine out of his eyes. A dissenter burned at the stake for his supposed heresy, he emerges from the ashes like a black sun/son rekindling the light of gnosis. First and foremost a skeptic, (a disbeliever not an unbeliever) his perceptions of the light are wholly "other." The heathen is an eye-witness to other forms of vision, opening sealed books in search of the whole truth. He unveils the masks of mystification concealing the pious hypocrites and self-deluded bigots who hide under the cloaks of orthodox religions. Shrew, Scold, and Fury, dark and impenetrable, the heathen despises the austerity and misdevotion of the monotheist. "Torn between the light and dark," he often looks through dark spectacles because "bright light destroys him." With a bewitching overlook, he casts the Holy Men of old into the shadows. The heathen is the blasphemer who reviles the assumed piety of the Book of Books. He views it's pages with dark, jaundiced eyes.
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP: 4.17.147.39)
USA - Thursday, April 18, 2002 at 10:27:55 (EDT)
His Burning Eye Will See Me Through: Sunday --The Sun; Cactus --Plant That Survives Well In Desert Sun; All cacti have extremely thick outer tissues, called cuticles, which seal off their external environment, thus limiting the loss of water, therefore they have the ability to survive in environments that contain a limited amount of liquids...; Slow Burn --The Burning theme again; Cruising around me the flames burn my body; Back away from the light; I shake And stare at the sun Till my eyes burn; White boys falling on the fires of night...
Nevada Kerr (Posted from IP: 4.17.147.25)
USA - Wednesday, April 17, 2002 at 10:10:17 (EDT)
FANTASTIC WEBSITE !!! FOUND IT QUITE BY ACCIDENT AFTER DISCOVERING I COULD NOT AFFORD BOWIENET.... JUST WANTED 2 SAY A BIG HELLO 2 ALL THE FELLOW DB FANS... LOVE ON YA ...BOO...
BOO (genie__@lycos.co.uk) (Posted from IP: 195.92.198.73)
manchester, uk - Tuesday, April 16, 2002 at 08:47:28 (EDT)
THE MAN WHO FELL TO EARTH
unknown (Posted from IP: 151.204.126.193)
Madrid, Spain - Friday, April 12, 2002 at 20:48:29 (EDT)
Apropos of everything, there's a WSJ article today about fan clubs in rock. Biggest point? "Indeed, for fans, the clubs have become a well-kept secret source for concert tickets." Aerosmith is used liberally throughout the article; no mention of the Massachusetts incident where they parked people in the balcony and blamed it on the promoters and claimed they were forced to make up a concert because of it. But Dave Matthews? 8,000 of 17K in Chicago went to fans; early, the article noted that Matthews' seats were good (though about 7,975 of 'em weren't in the first row). Melissa Etheridge gets raves for setting aside the best seats, in pairs, phones only, will call. In fact, the article dwells on the ticket-getting benefits but misses the dreck, see Aerosmith above, the U2 "gold circle," etc. Some of the rest of the stuff is really funny: fan club members tend not to be kids, but old, and Metallica's manager says "If you look forward five years, you can't be terribly optimistic." Michael Bolton's club, not surprisingly, hawks latte mugs, perhaps 'cause Rex Ray ain't on the payroll. :-)
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Friday, April 12, 2002 at 11:13:22 (EDT)
Bowie set to play at Quart Festival in Norway, in July!! Yay!
Bew (mr-ness@frisurf.no) (Posted from IP: 158.36.69.58)
Norway - Friday, April 12, 2002 at 09:18:12 (EDT)
Hey i was wondering if anyone eles saw Davids name in the credits of Felicity on tv 10th of april??if you did e mail me ziggys_bebe2hotmail.com
LOVE (ziggys_bebe@hotmail.com) (Posted from IP: 204.100.181.6)
dont matter, ca USA - Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 13:08:07 (EDT)
It was sort of a mutual throwing out, iirc (as in "get out, it's four am!"... "alright already, don't be so hasty... cantcha see we're going?!" etc., etc.,)... If nothing else, I'll just hang around out front on the steps with a Mickey's Wide Mouth in a paper bag and shout "Rancell!" at everyone who looks vaguely New York-y.
kmsv (Posted from IP: 209.3.112.29)
USA - Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 12:37:26 (EDT)
I hope if you're banned at Faces and Names you at least had the dignity to get thrown out first. Sorry I missed that par-tay.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC , NY USA - Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 09:53:02 (EDT)
I'm sure they're set on at least one date. Or dates. There might be something regarding the onsale date/Bowienet tix "distribution" that prevents 'em from announcing it immediately vis a vis Ticketmaster. Or, perhaps, they aren't exactly sure how many dates they're gonna do. Long way of saying: I don't know. Evan found out last time that, even though only one show was announced for sale, there would be two sold, so we were able to just keep the TM ops talking until the second show was released. Hopefully, we'll find the exact number again in advance.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 09:51:32 (EDT)
Roseland, hell yea! I dunno if I can go back in Faces after Tibet tho- let's just say a few of us got a little too happy there the last time. hehehe. Hey I have a question for you Rancell, why do you think we don't have the date for Roseland yet? The foreign natives are getting restless and flight costs are escalating... And didn't we go thru this at the last Roseland? What's the dilly-yo?
KMSV (Posted from IP: 209.3.112.59)
USA - Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 08:01:17 (EDT)
Hello! Just a small favour... How do I login in Conversation Piece? Do I use the same username and password than to login in TW? Thanks in advance. Cheers.
Isabel (saille@net.sapo.pt) (Posted from IP: 194.65.14.69)
Lisboa, Portugal - Thursday, April 11, 2002 at 05:18:24 (EDT)
Sure, why not? You're talking about Roseland, right? Or will we be appearing up and down the coast(s)? I missed out on Faces and Names in February.
rancell (Posted from IP: 205.188.199.164)
NYC, NY USA - Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 19:52:40 (EDT)
Rancell, do you think we'll actually MEET this time? ;)
KMSV (Posted from IP: 209.3.112.97)
USA - Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 13:05:53 (EDT)
Area:2 now up as the lead story on Billboard. Nothing but a rewrite of the Bowienet press release. http://www.billboard.com/billboard/index.jsp
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 11:02:10 (EDT)
Hi there!I really love this site, but when you look at how many users actually have updated their profile lately or still are using their profiles, it becomes rather sad, because actually no one in Denmark, where I am from, are using their profiles still, and I just wanted to notice you on that one. Anyway, I visit, probably as the only Dane, this site around 5 times a week!It´s quite a lot when you look at how many hours that becomes. I really, really love this site, it is defenitely worth it! and I think that David Bowie would be honoured if he knew that this page was excisting. This was my little comment, my little contribution, i hope it helped! Love from Linda, DK. (my profile is called zejzild, please pay a visit some day and write to me, perhaps?)
Linda Christiansen (zejzild@teenagewildlife.com) (Posted from IP: 131.165.161.210)
Bagsværd, DK Denmark - Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 10:05:13 (EDT)
But this still doesn't mean every single Area:2 date.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 09:55:11 (EDT)
Rolling Stone put up this story late yesterday--http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=15737--and Bowienet confirmed it today. Busta and Bowie on the Mobyfest, dates in late summer and the fall, apparently, which may be good news, because maybe they'll move it out of Tweeter/Merriwether Post/Jones Beach/PNC, etc., and put it indoors too.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Wednesday, April 10, 2002 at 09:49:55 (EDT)
There's a report of questionable reliability on the Moby boards that Moby confirmed Bowie's presence for Area:2 in an interview on Chicago's Q-101. In his latest missive to his fans, Moby says that there will be an announcement very soon about the lineup. I thought this was a done deal quite some time ago, but I'm still wondering if it's all dates, or what.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Tuesday, April 09, 2002 at 11:13:26 (EDT)
Wow, on Bowienet: three guitars in the band. That means good and loud, I hope. :-)
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Tuesday, April 09, 2002 at 10:50:05 (EDT)
Kali! there was even an article in my local paper about all the pipers! It was cool- I said to my mum "My friend Kali was one of those 10,000!" :-)
Alys (alpalmer@ucalgary.ca) (Posted from IP: 24.64.80.191)
calgary, ab canada - Tuesday, April 09, 2002 at 10:17:43 (EDT)

   

Fitzhugh (Posted from IP: 204.252.19.3)
USA - Monday, April 08, 2002 at 18:02:30 (EDT)
Thanks again, Rancell!
Kali (Posted from IP: 68.46.51.248)
USA - Monday, April 08, 2002 at 08:57:10 (EDT)
Here are URLs you can cut-and-paste on yesterday's piping festivities in the Sunday NYC papers (no guarantees on how long they stay up): http://www.nytimes.com/2002/04/07/nyregion/07BAGP.html; http://www.nydailynews.com/2002-04-07/News_and_Views/City_Beat/a-146836.asp; http://www.nypost.com/news/regionalnews/45261.htm.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Sunday, April 07, 2002 at 19:18:44 (EDT)
Thanks, Rancell! We had a great turnout! It was cold but once we started marchin' we didn't notice. We were pretty close to 10,000 pipes and drums! Save me tomorrow's newspapers! ;-) (Wonder if Bowie was in town?)
Kali (www.pipefest.com) (Posted from IP: 68.46.51.248)
USA - Saturday, April 06, 2002 at 21:15:22 (EST)
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Him lone cell cat (Posted from IP: 148.85.242.242)
USA - Saturday, April 06, 2002 at 20:10:30 (EST)
Wow, there's tons of 'em, and they all have bagpipes. Congrats Kali, quite a scene, unlike anything I've ever seen. Nice coverage on the newsradio stations, too, this morning; I hope it was a good turnout in the (kinda) cold.
rancell (Posted from IP: 152.163.213.54)
NYC, NY USA - Saturday, April 06, 2002 at 14:08:43 (EST)
The Life special "Rock & Roll at 50" is on newstands. Bowie is at 36 in its list of the 100 greatest rockers ever. The book uses at least a couple of familiar Rock-ian Ziggy era photos too. More info: http://www.life.com/Life/lifebooks/rocknroll/.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Friday, April 05, 2002 at 13:49:44 (EST)
Maybe I'm missing something, but how as the press release says could all the songs have been written last July and August if "Afraid" is on the album? Does that also mean as it apparently indicates that Bowie re-recorded Afraid last summer, and that there is a Webcast version, a "Toy" version, and the one we can buy on June 11? And is the one on the album the same one that was debuted to the public in a commercial?
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Friday, April 05, 2002 at 09:44:14 (EST)
Cool, Rancell! Hope to see you there. It's gonna be incredible. I remember the one we did in Scotland in 2000...just incredible. And it raised close to a million pounds for charity.
Kali (Posted from IP: 68.44.193.188)
USA - Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 22:46:18 (EST)
Good luck in your march Kali. I promise I'll stop by; it seems like quite an event if that site is any indication.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 09:44:36 (EST)
Heathen This word for Non-Christian or Pagan is common in all the Germanic languages. It appears in Old English as hâþen in the year 826. It clearly arose after Christianity, but had to be quite early for it to appear in all the Germanic tongues, sometime in the 4th century or earlier. Most words of this age have unclear etymologies, but this is not the case with heathen. It is believed to have originated in Gothic and spread to the other Germanic tribes. In the 4th century, Ulfilas, bishop of the Goths, translated the Bible into Gothic. In Mark 7:26, which reads "Now the woman was a Greek , a Syrophoenician by birth...," Ulfilas used the word haiþnô in place of Greek, or as it appears in the Vulgate gentilis, or gentile. Haiþnô literally means Dweller On The Heath. So the original sense is remarkably the same as the modern sense, someone living beyond the bounds of civilization and who has not received the word of God! So, Heathen has a remarkably similar semantic history as Pagan. This hypothesis is not universally accepted however. Some point out that Ulfilas may have been influenced by Armenian and that Heathen instead is related to the Armenian het'anos, which is derived from the Greek eqnox, meaning Nation or People.
Nevada kerr (Posted from IP: 146.243.82.182)
USA - Tuesday, April 02, 2002 at 09:24:33 (EST)
Hey Rancell -- are you gonna be in NYC next Saturday? I'll be up there with about 9,000 - 10,000 bagpipes and drums marchin' down The Avenue of the Americas to Central Park. Come root for us! ;-)
Kali (www.pipefest.com) (Posted from IP: 68.44.193.188)
USA - Monday, April 01, 2002 at 17:25:04 (EST)
Sounds neat rancell- and at least a bit promising! Does anyone have a copy of this demo????? I'd pay for a copy even! :)
Alys (alpalmer@ucalgary.ca) (Posted from IP: 24.64.80.191)
Calgary, ab Canada - Monday, April 01, 2002 at 11:54:17 (EST)
Supposedly, Alys, there is a promo/demo CD that has been copied beyond the Columbia people. If "I Would Be Your Slave" is indicative, along with Bowie's comments on the derivation of Heathen last week on Bowienet, the album might well be about questioning faith. Faith and redemption. And perhaps the prism through which it is viewed will be Bowie himself, as opposed to a video game, the art world, or, to use another example, a thin white duke.
rancell (Posted from IP: 206.231.228.130)
NYC, NY USA - Monday, April 01, 2002 at 10:46:50 (EST)
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