Teenage Wildlife

BowieNet Glam Chat

December 17, 1998

Host Moderator says: Let's Get Started! Any questions for Mick and Tony?

"Total Blam Blam" says: Hallo Mick - Hallo Tony - Tony I have an old Doo Wop single from way back when, (1974 actually) called "I Remember Brooklyn" - Is this the sort of thing that one should keep quiet about?

Tony: It's too late, the truth is out.

Greetings everyone

Host Moderator says: Gilly says:when did you get to know each other, mick and tony?

Mick: it was through David, probably at a party.

Mick: I don't remember when.

Tony: I have to agree with Mick. We must have met at a party. Although neither of us were sober at that party.

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Mick Rock: in your opinion, what's the difference between rock videos in the early 70's (like the ones you did for David) and in the MTV era? Don't you think the old videos were better in that they complemented the song, like an animated record cover, instead of competing with it?

Mick: One is the budget.

Mick: none of them were budgeted more than about $1,000 US.

Mick: I don't think that's necessarily true.

Mick: There was less pressure about those older films because they were rarely used.

Mick: Many more are used today than at time.

Host Moderator says: Raven says:Hi Mick & Tony! Mick, thanks for putting up the special website! Very Nice. Do you have a favorite picture that you have taken of David?

Mick: I think maybe the one of him slashing his wrists from 1973.

Mick: He's doing his fake Judy Garland act, lunging toward the camera.

Mick: with a suitable, anguished expression on his face.

Mick: only published once.

Mick: Rock & Roll suicide, I call that one

Host Moderator says: straffer says:what do you both think of Marlin Manson???

Tony: I think he's the best thing since David Bowie.

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:Tony - Has Mick done any headstands yet this evening?

Mick: How do you know about that?

Mick: Yes, I do them every day since 1970

Mick: (I hate to admit)

Host Moderator says: JoniVeSadd says:tony which is your fav album u made with david and also one u didnt??

Tony: I have 2 favs, the man who sold the world, and scary monsters.

Tony: hunky dory. A great album.

Tony: I play it to this day, even though I had nothing to do with it.

Host Moderator says: spaceface says:tony: how has working with david changed from 1970 to 1998?

Tony: his voice got deeper

Tony: and so did his brain.

Host Moderator says: Sculley says:Hi Tony. Have a question for you: When working with Marc Bolan and T.Rex, did Marc usually go with the flow in the studio, or was it a total dictatorship?

Tony: Working with Mark was a total friendship. He can be very salty at times.

Tony: But, it was a total collaboration.

Host Moderator says: straffer says:Mick is there someone left you would like to take a picure of???

Mick: I'm talking about Marilyn Manson at the moment.

Mick: but the one I haven't taken, but won't be able to, is of course, John Lennon.

Mick: Why don't you ask me what my favorite subject was?

Mick: I think clearly David and Lou Reed rank up there.

Host Moderator says: bill says:Tony - can you tell us what happened regarding the recording of TMWSTW - is it true Bowie only had a few bits and pieces ready at that time?

Tony: the man who sold the world was the first album when David came into the studio with only bits and pieces prepared

Tony: at first, I found this an impossible situation to work with.

Tony: because it never happend to me before.

Tony: After that album, David continued to come into the studio with songs only partially written.

Tony: and I've got to say, he's written some of his best songs that way, with the band present in the room.

Host Moderator says: Raven says:Mick will you take a picture of RonRoy so we can finally see him on bowie.net?!?!? :)

Mick: Only if he'll agree to pose naked and pay me money.

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:Tony - Apart from The Prettiest Star can you remember any other time when David and Marc recorded together - Or is just rumours and lies and stories they made up?

Tony: I'd like to lay this one at rest once and for all.

Tony: That's it. Apart from a bootleg cassette that's floating around of David and Mark writing a song in some hotel room somewhere.

Host Moderator says: GlamGnome says:Who in your opinion was the most influential artist of the time and why? You don't have to be biased cause your chatting in Bowie-Net. he he he

Mick: I think that without a shadow of a doubt, David Bowie, and I think one should also count Lou Reed.

Mick: His influence also pre-dated Davids.

Mick: I don't think there's any discussion about that.

Host Moderator says: amalgam says:Tony - what was it about the song Space Oddity that you didn't like?

Tony: At the time, the 1st man was sent into space

Tony: And I thought writing the song was a cheap shot at commercialism.

Tony: I've been kicking myself in the butt ever since.

Host Moderator says: Sculley says:What was your guys' take on Velvet Goldmine?

Yes, we've seen it.

Mick: I heard Tony's description. Should I repeat it Tony?

Tony: I think VG was grossly inaccurate about those times,

Tony: I think it was unfair to borrow from Bowie's life

Tony: and distort it so much, and create the illusion that it was Bowie, and not some fictional character

Tony: Basically, I thought it was a gay porn film disguised as a musical.

Mick: I haven't actually seen the film yet. It's going to be hard for me not to be very critical.

Mick: Having read the script, I realized it was something I need to keep distance from because

Mick: it had nothing to do with the period. A fact that gets lost is that a boy in those days wearing a lot of makeup

Mick: would probably attract a lot of girlfriends, speaking for myself. Makeup was nothing to do with being gay,

Mick: it had a lot to do with getting laid, for a very heterosexual person.

Mick: You couldn't fuck a lot of girls unless you were wearing some mascara.

Host Moderator says: spaceface says:tony, which artists are on your wish list to work with today?

Tony: I am very attracted to the music of Marilyn and the Pumpkins, but I'm curious as to which artist I think I should be working with.

Mick says, "Hi Helen. I hope you're behaving yourself."

Mick: And if you're not, Have fun.

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Mick Rock, what kind of film did you use in the 70's? And today?

Mick: Mostly exactly the same film.

Mick: on the Hasselblad, the 120mm, E6 120 64 ASA

Mick: in B&W, Triax 400.

Mick: It's really about the way you process the film that's important.

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:Tony, is there a full film of you and the Hype performing at the Roundhouse in London on February 1970?

Tony: I have just learned of its existance.

Tony: After seeing the behind the music special on VH1.

Tony: I would love a copy of it for myself. Can anyone help me?

Host Moderator says: kelmar666 says:Hey Mick,Mr Rock, did you ever get a nice picture of David's butt?

Mick: I certainly got some rather jolly pictures of him in his underpants.

Mick: Beyond that, I refuse to answer any further.

Host Moderator says: SqueakBox says:Tony or Mick: do you think the glam revival today is much different than the glam of the 70's?

Mick: I would say so. The world is in a completely different place.

Mick: 1 thing about Glam, for those of us involved in it, it was certainly revolutionary.

Mick: We saw ourselves as on the outside. Glam was pretty punk.

Mick: It upset people just as much.

Mick: Today, like most things, it's a form of reclycing, but I'm glad it's happening. I'm enjoying it.

Mick: It's letting me garner new work. But it's a different world today.

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:I have a copy:))))

Tony says, "Bianca, could you forward a copy of that tape to the liveandwell.com PO box, listed on the website.

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:Tony, is there any truth behind the story of "Heroes" and the couple who met each other at the Berlin Wall?

Tony: I went for a walk with Antonia the backup singer on Heroes at David's request.

Tony: He was a little stuck finishing the lyrics for the song. And he looked out the window after a while, and saw Antonia and I walking along the edge of the Berlin wall, holdling hands.

Tony: I was told by someone close to David that we inspired the verse where the couple is kissing by the wall.

Tony: Etc.

Host Moderator says: orange says:Was there anything after Glamrock that had the same impact for you?

Mick: I got very involved with the Punk rock scene, especially in NY.

Mick: I did a lot of work with the Ramones, Blondie.

Mick: Like Glam, it was about looking for an edge, and looking for a way to upset what was then the status quo.

Mick: can't forget about the Deadboys and Talking Heads.

Host Moderator says: VernardsTwinningAphex says:Tony,what do u think of todays music scene in general??

Tony: I think it's healthy. I think people are returning to writing great songs instead of depending upon flamboyant production techniques to make the record.

I think Marilyn is a healthy indication (believe it or not).

Tony: Pumpkins, Green Day. I think the best music is coming from America.

Host Moderator says: JoniVeSadd says:Mick what was it like working with debbie harry was she a goddess as we all thought she was

Mick: DH was and is a delightful person. Certainly, she had no attachment to the idea of being a goddess. She had a very ironic view of her beauty.

Mick; Fabulous sense of humor.

Host Moderator says: Helen2 says:Mick or tony do either of you have projects planned with David for the near future?

Tony: David and I got together in August of this year and recorded two songs for 2 projects.

Tony: Speaking for myself, it was a wonderful experience.

Tony: We will be working on a project in the very near future. I will leave it up to David to tell you what the nature of that project is.

Mick: ditto.

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:As David has enjoyed role reversal in the past, (For example Boy's Keep Swinging, for the recording of the track itself and the video gendre bending) why don't you both get involved with the next album, except Tony do the sleeve and Mick produce it - both in drag of course!

Tony: I can do some wicked things in photoshop, so your request might not be all that unusual.

Tony: and with a bit of makeup, I can come up looking like Susie Wong.

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:Mick,how did you get the idea for the "Life on Mars" video?

Mick: It wasn't so much an idea as a moment in time.

Mick: Remember, all those videos (or promos as we called them) were done for very small budgets.

Mick: I wanted to do something that looked a little bit like a painting.

Host Moderator says: JoniVeSadd says:what was it like when Iggy , Lou and David were together any good stories??

Mick: what sort of stories are you talking about? Give me a hint or two.

Host Moderator says: Bonster1 says:tell us about the bar fight ;)

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Mick how did you see David's "Video Collection"? Did you notice that the "Life on Mars" video was re-edited and also blurred? Do you think they couldn't get a decent master so they had to use a second generation copy and blur it?

Mick: Somebody fucked up there, it wasn't me.

Mick: Somebody didn't tell me what was going on.

Mick: but that's another story.

Host Moderator says: Dodo says: do you feel yourselves as part of rock history?

Tony: When I read books on rock history, I definitely feel myself.

Tony: In fact, I have one pocket with a deep hole in it.

Mick: It makes me feel like I'm a bit past the first flush of my youth.

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:Mick, when will be your next photo-exhibition?

Mick: Gavinda Gallery, in DC in March.

Host Moderator says: kelmar666 says:Mr Visconti, is it true you were scared to go to sleep at haddon hall?

Tony: Everyone was scared to even walk in the dark at Hadden Hall because

Tony: everyone who lived there saw a ghost of a thin young woman walking early morning in the garden.

Tony: It was definitely a haunted house.

Host Moderator says: Gilly says:what about that "moonage daydream! video?

Mick: That was the first video I ever did with David.

Mick: It was shot on a bowlex 16mm camera in April of 1972.

Mick: It was a collage of live footage

Mick: I can't remember if it's ever been publically shown, but I'm sure that some point in the not-to-distant future,

Mick: It will get seen. There's also a video of Rock and Roll suicide that hasn't aired. Edited in the 80's,

Mick: Footage from that time. It's a wonderful thing.

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Tony, when is your book coming out?

Tony: I'm still writing it. I don't have a publisher yet. And it probalby won't see the light of day until the year 2000.

Host Moderator says: kelmar666 says:Mick, do you think those godawful shag haircuts will make a comeback???

Mick: I bloody well hope not.

Host Moderator says: orange says:What are you up to New years eve 2000??

Mick: Why, are you looking for a date?

Tony: I hope I get a gig that night. Scale is trippled.

Host Moderator says: Tybalt says:We're doing a BowieNet Babes of 1999 Calendar... does Mr. Rock wanna photo our BowieNet Babes>

Mick: Yes.

Mick: Any Tony will assist me.

Host Moderator says: Bonster1 says:Mick, who is the most fascinating person you ever photographed and the pics looked like shit?

Mick: None of my pictures ever look like shit.

Host Moderator says: GlamGnome says:Tony, I live in Chicago and was eaves dropping on a conversation because I heard your name. A gentleman was referring to a local Chicago band that you may be producing. Any more info or just a rumor?

Tony: the group is called Extra Very, but it's still at the rumour stage.

Host Moderator says: Valerius says:What you do think of photographing us in fetish wear? Quite a few of us are into that.

Mick: One day I'll show you a more interesting box of my photo collection.

Host Moderator says: kelmar666 says:Mick, do you have a photo of bowie getting spanked or summink?

Mick: I have a few pictures of summink.

Host Moderator says: grazia says:hi Tony, what group of musicians David stayed better, give me your opinion

Tony: I think you're asking me what group of musicians I prefered working with. First, there would be Mick Ronson and Woody Woodmansey. The next group of musicians would be the band we used on Low, Heroes, Larger, and Scary Monsters.

Tony: They are Carlos Alamar, Dennis Davis, and George Murray.

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:Mick - Was your background graphic design? I ask because you did a more than convincing job on the Cockney Rebel albums. Mick - Was your background journalism? I ask because you did a more than convincing job on the early Ziggy articles. Mick - Was your background photography? I ask because you did a more than convincing jo

Mick: My background, I studied modern languages at Cambridge, then I went to the London film school. I kind of wondered. And in those days, I would flex my modest talents in many different, related directions. The truth is, no one payed very much money for any of those activities in those days, so it was a good idea to perform in all those areas

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Could the two of you give us your impressions of the late Mick Ronson?

Mick: He was a sweet, wonderful, almost innocent human being, and much more talented than he realized, and maybe the world in general realized, until after he died. He really was a very very special talent, but very modest in his own appreciation of those talents.

Mick: Him and David together was probably one of the finest moments in rock and roll. We love you Mick.;

Host Moderator says: ginger says:Here's my impression of Ronno. garrrrrrrang straaaaaaaang baaaaaaaaang whoooooosh

Tony: That's fabulous Ginger. If I close my eyes, I could just hear those tones right now. But then again, if I close my eyes, I couldn't read this.

Host Moderator says: Gilly says:Can you tell me something about Steve Harley?

Mick: He was a very interesting guy. He was very much impressed with David Bowie. And that was why he contacted me in the first place. But he was a very different talent, although he was posted at the time as being the "pretender to the glam rock crown". I think he's a fine songwriter, and it's great to see he's had some kind of resurgence toda

Mick: Come up and see me was just a terrific single, especially Jim Cregan's guitar.

Mick: Beautiful spanish guitar.

Host Moderator says: SqueakBox says:How do you think Sadam Hussein would look in Glam attire?

Mick: I think he should shave his legs first, definitely.

Tony: He's definitely got a Freddie Mercury thing going.

*** laughing ***

Host Moderator says: Gilly says:i think, Steve Harley also did some songs with Marc Bolan. Did you record any of it?

Mick: I know he was very friendly with Marc, of course, this was after Marc's years of success, but I don't know if they actually recorded together.

Host Moderator says: Akros says:Tony don't you feel you are from the past now ; that all your work is behind you ?

Tony: You're absolutely right. After this, I'm going to walk right in front of a bus. I hope that makes you feel terribly guilty.

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Mick, I understand you took some pictures of Queen in their early years. How did you like the new turn their music (and image) took, especially after "A Night at The Opera"?

Mick: I never felt quite the same about Freddie's image once he started doing his village people imiation, because there was indeed a guy in the VP that was doing what Freddie did, at least 3 years before Freddie. I used to see him in the West Village at the Anvil.

Mick: I'm talking about the guy from the Village People at the Anvil. Anyone remember the Anvil?

Host Moderator says: Gilly says:Tony, are there still unreleased outtakes of the albums you produced with David?

Tony: yes, there are several unreleased outtakes that I know of. I think David and I should sit down and compare notes about this.

Host Moderator says: amalgam says:Mick - have you captured any supernatural phenomena on film?

Mick: David Bowie and Lou Reed.

Mick: For starters, that is.

Mick: Absolutely supernatural.

Host Moderator says: orange says:I live in Asia at the moment, howcome this kind of music never influenced this part of the world?

Tony: Because you guys were so much into kabooky.

Host Moderator says: spaceface says:mick, who is the most gorgeous woman you have photographed?

Mick: I could be getting into a lot of trouble over this.

bowie (ronroy@chat01) has joined the conversation.

Mick: But there was this stripper in 1979, somewhere in the East Village....

We have been joined by David Bowie.

Host bowie says:

Hum of the earth and fiends

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:What do you think of Nile Rodgers as producer?

Tony: Nile is fantastic. Ironically, as members of the recording academy, Nile and I sit on panels together, and he never stops talking about Let's Dance.

Host bowie says: thanks Joni

Host bowie says: he only everde the tea

Host Moderator says: canney says:What do you think of Rolan Bolan's band. I saw them at the Ritz in Manchester - I was very impressed

Host bowie says: Hallo SQ

Host bowie says: What new project

Tony: Rolan is very talented, and is a beautiful looking man. I keep in touch with him and I am trying to help him with his career when I can, but he lives in LA and I live in NY.

Host Moderator says: Sicco says:Would David Bowie be who he is now without the Glamperiod, I mean I like him because of his music not particularly because he had make-up...

Mick: David Bowie is a force of nature, and should be locked up after dark. Always.

Mick: Yes, of course he would. He's a phenomenal, wonderful, overwhelming talent. blah blah blah.

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:Tony - When you recorded Low, did you realise what a new sound had been created, and did you think it would be such an influential album?

Host bowie says: Hi folks Im a wonderful overwhelming SOB

Tony: We knew were on to something even before the album started. I had a conference call with David and Brian about what new things we would be bringing into this project. You could tell from the start that something quite incredible was about to happen. After one week in the studio, we knew we were doing something very far out.

Host Moderator says: VernardsTwinningAphex says:TONY DAY,what do u think of Bowie;s excursions into Jungle.Drum and Bass???

Mick: Fuck You, Vernards.

Host bowie says: Tony and Mick are in NY and I'm in my element

Host Moderator says: Akhros says:Did you like it working with midge ure tony ?

Tony: I never worked with Midge Ure.

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:Lodger was dismissed by Eno,what do you think of it?

Tony: this is the first I heard of that.

Host bowie says: h yes you did

Host bowie says: Oh yes you did

Host bowie says: iits behind you

Tony: I think it was a dark album, sonically, but songs like African Night Flight Fantastic Voyage, and Boys Keep Singing make it one of David's best albums ever, but there's no pleasing Brian.

Host bowie says: hi blam

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Tony, do you regret the fact that a lot of people think Eno produced "Low", "Heroes" and "Lodger"? I've seen this mistake in books and magazines.

Tony: Thank you for asking. It amazes me how so called responsible journalists don't even bother to read the credits on the album, which read, "Produced by Bowie and Visconti" Brian is a great musician, and was very integral to the making of those three albums. But he was not the producer.

Host bowie says:Eno DID produce them ALL I didn't even know Tony at the time

Host bowie says: ENO also did Space OdDtity

Tony: You know David, you can buy those fabulous Gingko pills in health-food stores that improve your memory.

Host Moderator says: Akhros says:Tony do you think that David Bowie is deaf these days ?

Host bowie says: Odd titty, I mean

Tony: Hey, why don't you go play with razor blades.

Host Moderator says: GlamGnome says:Tony, what is best thing that David gave you and David, what was the best thing that Tony gave you?

Host bowie says: ht fight in the room lads

Tony: The worst thing we gave each other was the clap. The best thing was obviously penicillin.

Host bowie says: don'tmake me come over there

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:Chaps can you confirm what everybody already knows: that David has the knob of an ant!

Tony: Yes, it's true, he's into taxidermy. The ant's knob is mounted in his den.

Host Moderator says: canney says:Tony: Name you all time favourite band line up if you could chose absolutely anybody?

Host bowie says: LOL Total is a leading scumbag of our time

Tony: Hendrix and Ronson on guitars, Keith Moon on drums, and ME on BASS!

Host Moderator says: Zardoz says:What is Mick's fav pic of db?

Mick: IT's probably one I can't possibly publish.

Host bowie says: Mick, amalgam wants to know if you dig Kirlian photography

Host Moderator says: Bonster1 says:Tony, would you rather play bass or produce?????

Tony: I get bored with playing bass after an hour, so I guess I'm stuck with producing.

Host Moderator says: Host bowie says:Mick, amalgam wants to know if you dig Kirlian photography

Mick: Only on Sunday afternoons.

Host Moderator says: Sicco says:Did Bowie invent Glam Rock or did Glam Rock invent Bowie/

Host bowie says: anythig i made with T....oh!

Tony: David Bowie invented Glam Rock. But that is a rhetorical, journalistic question that either deserves a full-length article, or to be ignored.

Host bowie says: Never let me down

Host Moderator says: Helen2 says:mick can i put a picture of you on the member database on Bnet? would you mind?

Mick: Depends on what the picture is.

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:Is there a chance that the David of nowadays will pose for a book of you again, Mick?

Mick: We've talked about it.

Host bowie says: my servers gone all treacly and slow

Host Moderator says: ilsa says:Well, what about Marc Bolan and his influence on glam rock?

Host bowie says: I have to type a letter a minute to get there

Mick: It wasn't Marc Glitterrock? And wasn't David Glam? There is a difference you know.

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Mick and Tony, how do you feel about David disturbing YOUR chat?

Mick: We're going to talk to him about that later.

Tony: I think he spends far too much time here, and should be writing songs instead.

Host Moderator says: SqueakBox says:Is Gary Glitter a Glamboy

Host bowie says: OK. The Space Odd story

Mick: That's a hell of a question, especially given the trouble he's been in lately.

Host bowie says: Tonys memorie oor thing is blinking

Host Moderator says: JoniVeSadd says:was David really that good on the melatron or however its spelt???

Tony: David is a whiz on the melotron, and the chamberlain. It's bastard grown-up son.

Host Moderator says: bill says:can't you three talk later? and stop messing us about? Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells!

Mick: Why stop now? We're having a good time. (Messing you about, that is)

Host bowie says: by the time gus and I had finished rcording it Nasa still hadn't even announced they were doing there thiause it was so secret

Host bowie says: Tony had merely thought it corny and didn't want to do it

Host Moderator says: canney says:Tell us a joke

Mick: What's the difference between Elvis Presley and Michael Jackson???

Host bowie says: so there

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:What do you think of the new book "Glam, Bowie, Bolan and the GlitterRock that came out lately?

Mick: I think it's pretty good. In fact, I think it's very cute. In fact, I think it's not bad at all. See David Bowie's critique on the Barnes & Noble web-site in the near future.

Host Moderator says: Sicco says:on my vinyl record Lodger is written (scratched in the vinyl) "No sense is better...than none at all" Why is that?

Host bowie says: My review should be on Barnes and noble tomorrow

Tony: In the days of vinyl, I used to engrave message on the outer grooves, mainly to make sure RCA was using my cuts. So, I kind of ran out of things to say after a while, and just had the disc-cutter engrave that. Look at all your Bowie vinyl, and you will find messages in the inner grooves.

Tony: By the way, Phil Spector started this trend in the 60's when he scratched Phil loves Ronnie in the outer grooves of one of his singles.

Host bowie says: He used to scratch em BAD. you shosfnre at home

Host Moderator says: spaceface says:tell us the punchline mick

Mick: My lawyer advises me not to answer that. I could get sued.

Host Moderator says: VernardsTwinningAphex says:> Tony,whats yer opinion on OUTSIDE????

Tony: Hey, do you want to step outside? I liked it, and earthling.

Host Moderator says: Helen2 says:mick is your book going to get released in the US? I am tired of having to get people copies everytime i go home

Mick: Call me. I'll tell you where to get copies in the US.

Host bowie says: im overloading like f--- here

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:What do you think of all the Drum and Bass on there?

Tony: It was well done, but I think we're all a little tired of drums and bass by now.

Host bowie says: youre also tired of guitars and singers and...

Host Moderator says: please be patient...

Host bowie says: sicco: wht gets a map

Host bowie says: half my letters are getting wiped.

Host Moderator says: JoniVeSadd says:what do you think David's last truely great album was???

Mick: Scary Monsters was a superb album.

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:Mick - how do you feel about all those pix of yours on all the different Bowie Sites - Is a credit enough?

Mick: IT's OK, I do it for love.

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Mick, I really don't know whether you went on directing videos or not. In case you haven't, do you think you'd be able to direct one by today's standards? Would you know where to start?

Host bowie says: God, theres some really great questions today. I wish we could get to them all

Host bowie says: Don't go yet guys

Mick: I did in the '70's quite a few, including for the Kings, Paul McCartney, Steve Harley. In the late 80's, I did serveral, including one very racey number for Ace Freely of KISS. I'm going to do a new one soon for a band called the L.E.S. Stiches

Mick: They're a superb NY east village punky kind of act.

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:Are you involved in other projects than music-projects? Do you paint like David does, Tony?

Mick: That's L.E.S. Stitches.

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:Are you involved in other projects than music-projects? Do you paint like David does, Tony?

Host bowie says: I really did object to the impression given in some articles that I did not write the songs on man who sold..

Tony: Yes, I have been working on the latest Luscious Jackson album for half the summer, and that should be out in April. Earlier this year, I produced local NY heroes D-Generation. Their first single, Helpless, is now on the soundtrack of the new motion-picture, "The Faculty"

Tony: I have also been slowly writing songs with Richard Barone of the Bongos, for his next solo album.

Host Moderator says: Helen2 says:either of you: do you think of glam as an English genre or something that started in the US and perfected in the UK?

Host bowie says: you only have to check out the chord changes. NO ONE writes chord changes like that

Mick: Well, there was definitley a meeting of London and NY. In it's finest form, Glam was definitely a British affair.

Host Moderator says: Bonster1 says:Have you heard the Soundtrack? Shawn Mullins Covers Changes pretty well

Tony: Yes, Shawn does a real great job.

Host bowie says: Im in my onrd over here. as usual

Host Moderator says: Raven says:What are your plans for the holidays Mick, Tony, & David?

Mick: Poor David. Boo-Hoo

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:who was the first who started Glam Rock in your opinion? Bolan or Bowie?

Mick: I already said Marc Bolan was Giltter Rock. David Bowie was Glam. It's a subtle difference, but a definite difference.

Host bowie says: Wee Willie Harris started glam. And I'm not joking

Host Moderator says: Sicco says:Well I just wantto know what you think of Marilyn Manson as the new Glam rocker

Host bowie says: Total you are wet willy

Mick: Marylin Manson is definitely an event, and he's certainly taken up a lot of the glam accoutrements. But I would have said he's more Alice Cooper than Ziggy Stardust.

Host Moderator says: midge says:is there really a difference between glam and glitter?

Mick: I think Glam was much more decedant than Glitter. In fact, decadent rock was another phrase used to describe the turf that Bowie, Lou Reed, and Iggy Pop trod.

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:Which album was the best of the Trilogy?

Tony: I take the Trilogy as a whole. I think they are equally very poignant albums. Which one do you think is the best, Dodo?

Host Moderator says: Helen2 says:LOW LOW LOW

Tony: Why?

Host bowie says: John Lennon said Its just rock n roll with lipstick on. Of course, he was completely wrong but what a great guy

Host Moderator says: Helen2 says:Low is like an aural massage

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Low is the best, period.

Host Moderator says: GlamGnome says:Where does Queen fit in? Glam or Glitter? How about Roxy Music?

Mick: I think Queen were, especially Freddie, were definitely Glammy. And Roxie Music was somewhere in-between.

Host bowie says: lol

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Low is the best, period.

Host bowie says: Tony, is it true you are starting an online producton course

Tony: I think Low was fabulous, but I think Heroes was the positive outcome of Low, which was a very dark album. Also, we recorded Heroes in a better studio than Low, and sonically, I think we did very well there.

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:Mercury said he was glam before bowie did anything,what do you think?

Mick: That's a very heavy question...

Host Moderator says: Host bowie says:Tony, is it true you are starting an online producton course

Tony: Only if you sign up.

Host Moderator says: JoniVeSadd says:Mick if you could photograph one of Davids alter ego's or just David Bowie as himself who would u pic?

Host bowie says: As Freddie asked me to produce their first album I would take that with a pinch of salt

Mick: I think I'd probably settle for one of the alter-egos. It's safer.

Mick: For my health, that is.

Host bowie says: is that a hint?

Host Moderator says: Host bowie says:is that a hint?

Tony: No, it's a blatant insult.

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:I think Bowie invented glam and stardom,don't you?

Mick: But what about Gretta Garbo?

Host bowie says: Ed: enough fairy glam now

Host Moderator says: canney says:Tony: The Seahorses - what's going on? Anything new?

Tony: Due to a big reshuffle at Geffen records, I think the Seahorses future on that label is very dubious, and that's a bad thing.

Tony: I haven't spoken to John Squire since the end of the album, and he has gone on to work with another producer, but I can't tell you anything more than that, since we're out of touch.

Host bowie says: Tony, how did you meet May?

Host Moderator says: Host bowie says:Tony, how did you meet May?

Tony: I first met May when you asked me to come and meet John Lennon at your hotel suite in the Hotel Pierre.

Tony: That's when we were making Young Americans.

Tony: May, of course, was John's girlfriend at the time.

Host bowie says: Tony, how did you meet Boy George

Tony: I remember staying up all night, having lots of fun with you and John drawing pictures of each other, and May and I sitting on the sofa together watching you both. When I finally turned to May, who was silent all night, my first question was, "Does your father do Kung-Fu?"

Host bowie says: Never wear a new girlfriend in front of Tony

Host Moderator says: Gilly says:mick, is your heart alright?Gilly says:mick, is your heart alright?

Mick: Yes, my heart is very strong at the moment. In fact, I wrestle aligators for breakfast every day now. A very American activity, I might add.

Host bowie says: lol

Host Moderator says: GeneralKelmar says:Tony have you ever met the great tom jones?

Tony: I have never met Tom Jones, but I would love to be able to sing just like him, or Boy George.

Host bowie says: Micks heart is in the right place, next to his wallet

Host Moderator says: Host bowie says:Micks heart is in the right place, next to his wallet

Mick: That's very cute. It's very warm... Just like my wallet.

Host Moderator says: Freecloud says:tony, what's the hardest part about producing a david bowie record?

Tony: The hardest part is to always be sure that the tape recorder is running, and the mic is working. He's very fast, and nothing he does is a demo. It's always for real.

Host Moderator says: GeneralKelmar says:maybe mick has some buttshots of tom jones?

Mick: What's this fucking hang-up you've got with Tom Jones??

Host Moderator says: canney says:Is Clinton fucked?

Mick: I doubt if he's had very many blow-jobs lately.

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:How was it to be in Berlin doing "Heroes" that time, comparing to today, Tony? How was your reaction when the wall came down?

Tony: I fucking loved that wall. The other side of the wall was like stepping into a time machine that took you 30 years into the past.

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:Mick - Is the Ziggy book you were doing with UFO still gonna happen?

Mick: I was never going to do a Ziggy book with UFO. However....

Host Moderator says: Akhros says:Tony Mick Bowie do you have the feeling sometimes people are kissing your asses ?

Host bowie says: Mick and I are doing something really great with all the Ziggy stuff. for 2002. watch out for that one

Mick: Would you pay for the priviledge??

Host bowie says: prefer it to having it kicked

Host bowie says: yes

Host Moderator says: spaceface says:akros does pay for the priviledge

Mick: Good man.

Host bowie says: Grant Mitchel threw Tif down the stair. No argument!

Host Moderator says: canney says:Mick: Is Rock your real surname or a pseudo?

Mick: Lou Reed always had a theory that my real name was Rockburger, and that I was from Long Island. But that's not actually true.

Host bowie says: I LOVE Eastenders. Next best to Chekov

Host Moderator says: canney says:Where does it come from originally?

Mick: I was born in Shepphard's Bush

Host bowie says: I've book-marked all their sites

Host Moderator says: orange says:Why did you became a photographer I tried it too but always felt to sleep in this dark room

Mick: I wish I knew. I've never been able to figure that out.

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:Which is David's best haircut????

Host bowie says: 87 witha touch of mohawk

Tony: The one I gave him in Berlin. He and Iggy wanted to blend in with the crowd of German working-men, so that they could go into a pub and be un-molested. As an italian, I always carry a pair of scissors with me. It's in our blood.

Host Moderator says: Emilio says:Mick Rock: what do you think of digital photography? As practical as it may be, do you think it will ever match the beauty of a slide?

Mick: It's a great new toy, but I'm addicted to film.

Host bowie says: Being Italian Tony left his long so he could be molested by working class germen men

Host Moderator says: Host bowie says:Being Italian Tony left his long so he could be molested by working class germen men

Tony: David, you promised we wouldn't get into this.

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:Will there anymore live-footage released you filmed of David in the 72s like the Santa Monica-concert in 72? Anymore unseen live-footage that will be released soon, Mick?

Mick: Yes, there is a lot of unreleased footage.

Mick: David and I are discussing synchronizing the release of this material with the new Ziggy push in 2002.

Host Moderator says: canney says:So how many shags in total do you two reckon you got in the 70s

Tony: We've had lashings of shags in the 70's.

Mick: But not so many in the 90's.

Host Moderator says: JoniVeSadd says:Mick / Tony what was the last D.Bowie concert u were at?

Tony: We both saw David at the Super club in NY.

Mick: Wonderful stuff. Vintage Bowie.

Host bowie says: Speak for yourself Tony

Mick: Intimate, and close to the audience, just they way we like. Hot and Throbbing. Didn't get shagged that night because the old lady had the painters in.

Host bowie says: about the shaggs I mean

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:I WAS IN SUPPER CLUB!!!where were you?

Tony: I was upstairs in the balcony, stage right with my wife May Pang, and my boyfriend Carlos Alamar.

Host bowie says: lol

Host Moderator says: spaceface says:arent your bots aching yet?mine is

Mick: Yes, I've nearly had enough of this nonsense. Ha ha ha.

Host Moderator says: grazia says:Tony, convince David to make a tour before 2000!

Host bowie says: my f--- server is so slow

Tony: Go ahead, David. You're better off. It's good for you. Was that OK, Grazia?

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:What do you think of Placebo?

Mick: Very interesting.

Host bowie says: im about two questions behind

Tony: I just met a group from a BBC TV show called Hype, that's the show, the group is called Suburbia-very placebo. I like them.

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:They're saying David's a good actor...

Tony: Who started that rumour??

Tony: Actually, apart from his films, he was fabulous on Broadway. As the elephant man.

Host bowie says: I did

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:What did think of Tin Machine? Would you like to produce the third Tin Machine album, Tony? I hope they will come back one day....

Tony: Reeves is a great player.

Host bowie says: Ut was very hard work with Tony and Hunt. For too many reasons to go into here

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:I got offered the part of The Elephant Man first when David Lynch saw me with me todger hanging out and me trouser pockets turned out!

Tony: So what happened?

Host Moderator says: Akhros says:Hanging on : David Tony Mick are you expecting to offer a free live-concert to Iraq wounded people in two years (I know my questions are maybe awful but I am doing my best tonite !)?

Mick: We are planning to have tea with Saddam. Want to come?

Host bowie says: Total is so talented isn't he?

Host bowie says: LOL

Tony: We intend to plan an Ecstasy drop on Iraq.

Tony: That should solve the problem.

We've been going for almost 2 hours now. Let's wrap it up in 10 more questions.

Host bowie says: Its not my height thats impressive....

Host Moderator says: Freecloud says:tony and mick, how tall is david REALLY?

Mick: Horizontal or Vertical??

Tony: He's shorter than I remember.

Host Moderator says: Gilly says:david, is it true that your fellow actors swopped the pic of the" elephan man¥s mother" for a porn pic, when you sat on the bed and had to say: my mother was so beautiful?

Mick: Gilly, get over it!

Host Moderator says: GlamGnome says:We haven't talked about the drugs! What were your favs?

Mick: none of your business. What are yours?

Host bowie says: as I just said Its not my HEIGHT that's impressive. Its not the reason I got the elephant man role

Tony: Gilly, are you THE Gilly? Who's trying to write the Mick Ronson book?

Host bowie says: Mine were def: speed, coke or sometimes speedballs.

Host Moderator says: VernardsTwinningAphex says:Mick,suffering from those 70's acid flashbacks???

We're having one right now!

Can you smell our fear?

Host Moderator says: Gilly says:too bad, but i¥m the other THE gilly

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:can you smell my ear?

Mick: Can you smell my rear?

Host Moderator says: Zardoz says:What will you all be doing at midnight Dec 31st 1999?

Shouldn't that be "WHO" will you all be doing....

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:What do you think of Ken scott as a producer?

Tony: I think he is a fine producer, but a real excellent engineer. One of the best.

Host bowie says: Getting laid

Host Moderator says: VernardsTwinningAphex says:Mick,it has been verified by a reliable source that you're always seen at MINISTRY OF SOUND in LONDON,going through a midlife crisis???

Mick: Up Yours.

Host bowie says: lolOLOLolo

Host Moderator says: Bianca says:How do you see internet today? Are you planning to release music also only online that you produced, Tony?

Tony: I think within a short period of time, it will be the only way to release music. Record companies, be scared. Be very scared.

Host Moderator says: Of course, you can always check Tony and Mick at their web sites: http://www.tonyvisconti.com and http://www.mickrock.com

Host Moderator says: Here is a special site that Mick Rock put together just for todays chat: http://www.mickrock.com/glam.htm give it a try!

Host bowie says: Go to Tonys site for a good time. Whats the URL tony?

Tony: I haven't been updated my web-site for about 6-months now, and I apologize. Hopefully, during the Holiday break, I will do that.

Host bowie says: Im F---- Late Again. Story of my life...by Micheal Holliday

David's on speaker-phone here in NY.

Host Moderator says: Here is a special site that Mick Rock put together just for todays chat: http://www.mickrock.com/glam.htm give it a try!

Mick Rock's web-site was updated last week. Check it out for lots of images.

Mick: I'm writing a new book, check there for details.

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:Mick finally - did you ever get any decent pix of David in his nightie?

Mick: Only in the little pink baby-doll number.

Mick: The new book is about Glam, with a lot about Lindsey Kemp in it.

Host bowie says: Blam Rock

Mick: I'm thinking of calling this new book Blood and Glitter.

Host Moderator says: orange says:mick did you read angies book and how much is true or should i not ask this?

Mick: Every last word is true!

David: But you would, woulnd't you.

Host Moderator says: orange says:I think david is gone

David notes that the boys have beaten the 2-hour Bowie-Net record.

David: Reeves and I have got to pick up the challenge in the future.

Host Moderator says: orange says:I think david is gone

Tony: People have been saying that for years.

Mick: In fact, Lou Reed said exactly that to me the other night. And that is true!

Host Moderator says: kelmar666 says:If I buy a keg of beer we could hang out all night

Tony: with hot wings and professional wrestling.

David: Don't you mean with professional wrestlers??

Host Moderator says: GlamGnome says:If Lou Reed is the King of New York what is David Bowie the king of?

Mick: That's a very big question.

David: The King of Queens.

Host Moderator says: Dogpoop says:What do you all think of the New Romantic movement...and was it David's fault?

Tony: Yes, it was definitely his fault.

Host Moderator says: Dodo says:Do you think David's still a teenage idol?I think so.

David: No, I'm a 52-year old idol.

Host Moderator says: VernardsTwinningAphex says: Was it david's fault that Boy george came about??

David: I would not take responsibility for Boy George's coming.... or going!

David: but he's a lovely lad.

Tony: You meant coming or Blowing, surely.

Tony: And yes, but what about Visage? Who's to blame for that fiasco?

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:Mick and Tony? Are you answering for David now? Is he just too lazy to type?

Yes, we have David on speakerphone.

Host Moderator says: kelmar666 says:Mick who was the weirdest groupie you ever saw?

Mick: There was this stripper who was missing two front teeth who claimed to have some very intimate knowledge of David Bowie. It was the UK Club, on 3rd.

David: That was Angela, my ex-wife.

Host Moderator says: "Total Blam Blam" says:Did she have her two front teeth removed so she could blow david without opening her mouth?

Tony: Didn't they all??

David: At least the rest of her teeth were real.

Host Moderator says: kelmar666 says:can total and I be your next guests if we promise to be really naughty?

David: It depends upon what you'll be wearing...

David: But if Blam's wearing man's clothes, then definitely not!

Last question please. (We've had a wonderful time)

Host Moderator says: Dogpoop says:Ok since we're going for tacky questions? What are you're favourite brand of dildos?

Tony: Pocket-Rocket.

Host Moderator says: orange says:david is there any kind of sport you like and surprise us?

Mick: David likes Cricket. Tony: Or water sports.

David: Now we've reached the dildo questions, Tony feels it can only go down. Pun intended.

David: Once again, thank you for your witty and intelligent questions.

David: And we're all proud to be associated with you.

David: Except for Blam Blam.

Tony: Thank you for the intelligent and not-so-intelligent. They were all equally amusing.

Mick: Thank you for your time, I shant be back.

Host Moderator says: Of course, you can always check Tony and Mick at their web sites: http://www.tonyvisconti.com and http://www.mickrock.com

Host Moderator says: thanks again guys...that it for tonight.....

Tony, Mick, and David have left the building.

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